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Nathan289
12-28-2015, 09:36 PM
Well i got hosed on a purchase..

Was supposed to be a 260, but when i got it home it turned out to be a 221..

Is this motor worth anything? Its rebuildable and i can build, but is it worth my while?

I'm thinking an early 289 or 260 for the squire wagon. I'd like to be able to pull a travel trailer with it..
No not the 19 foot shasta i currently have.. something smaller and lighter..

Any ideas?
Scrap it, sell it or rebuild it?

ew1usnr
12-29-2015, 03:28 AM
Hello, Nathan.

Did you buy the engine by itself, or a car with a 221 in it?

Dennis.

Nathan289
12-29-2015, 06:45 PM
Engine by its self.. intake to oil pan. Timing cover to flexplate..

Was told it was a 260.. and a 1963 engine at that.

Got there its a 1962 engine.. had a sneaky suspicion that it was a 221, but bought it any ways.. i can make my money back not worried about that..

Just curious if there is any value or if the motor is even really worth building.. i found inexpensive pistons. .

More than likely I'll keep looking for a 63 block.

ew1usnr
12-29-2015, 07:27 PM
The 221 is neat because it has the same displacement as the original Ford flathead 221 in³ V-8 (1932 – 1942) that made 85 hp.

It was the first Ford small block V-8 and I think that they were only made for one year in 1962.

The Ford small block Challenger 221 in³ V-8 was introduced in 1962. It had a 3.5 in bore, produced 145 hp at 4,400 rpm, 216 lb·ft torque at 2,200 rpm, and weighed 470 lbs.

The idea was to make an engine with the smoothness of a V-8 but with fuel economy that was close to that of a six cylinder.

They have got to be rare because they were made for such a short time and because no one wanted them after the 260, 289, and 302 came out.

MacDee
12-30-2015, 08:12 AM
The Cobra was born when Carrol Shelby shipped a 221 to AC Cars in England... No Cobras were produced with a 221 in it, but it was a 221 that AC used to adapt their chassis to accept the small-block Ford V8.

Nathan289
12-30-2015, 03:01 PM
I think it would be fun to build, but probably a waste of money and time..

Luva65wagon
12-30-2015, 08:30 PM
Someone sold one, complete, for $300 in October on eBay, so there "was" a demand. Maybe the only person who needed one bought that one.

:rolleyes:

Since you can build it with most of all the small-block performance parts, might be fun to build it and see what you can get out of it, but only if you plan to use it. Hope you make out OK either way.

You need that early-style block for the transmission mount bolt pattern I suspect, so yeah, it would limit you to the 221/260/early 289 for that.

Nathan289
12-30-2015, 09:46 PM
The other problem I'll run into is locating another 5 bolt bellhousing.

If i were smart I'd locate a 65 289 block that uses a 6 bolt bell.

But where's the fun in that?

I find it funny that the 221 pistons are cheaper than 260 pistons.

I also have a really odd idea that I'm kicking around..

Like installing 302 crank and rods in a 221 block..

Yep a stroker 221... not sure what it strokes too. 250s i guess

I played with this idea with a 260 once but scrapped the idea after mock up..

TR06
08-20-2016, 05:44 PM
The 221, 260 and 289 all have the same 2.87" stroke and 5.155" rods, so you can't stroke a 221 with 260 or 289 parts.

TR06
08-21-2016, 08:48 AM
I accidently closed my post before I got to the "punch line." I intended to add that the 302, 3" stroke combined with the 221 3.5" bore would be a 230 CID engine. A .030" overbore would be all of 234 CID. Not much improvement. A 3.25" stroke and .030" overbore would be a massive 254 CID.

Nathan289
08-23-2016, 08:42 PM
I actually stroked a 260 with a 302 crank and rods.
Its do able with a little machine work and some balancing when finished..