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Luva65wagon
07-25-2016, 10:17 AM
After the bleak attendance at the last meeting - and the mini regional, as well - I have gone though to check where everyone is; things like, who's still listed as members, who have let their dues lapse, who are selling their cars (or have sold them already) and leaving the club as a result. or who have simply moved or are now or have always been "out of the area." It appears there are really not that many members who are nearby anymore. Members yes, but not local members. We have members who are not on the forum as well, but I don't have much information about them yet.

We've always had issues with members being too far away (like Florida) to come to meetings, but there needs to be a better way to know how to proceed. That's my goal here.

If you are all unaware of this little page, have a look. See where you are on this list and whether this lines up with where you thought you were. For instance, many just don't realize they are no longer paid members:

http://www.rainierfalcons.com/forums/showgroups.php

I'm also opening up this thread to allow (beg) users to comment on what they'd like to see happen. Goals they'd like to see in the club, but are not being met. How they might be able to help. Anything that is on your mind, please say it. This thread will hopefully help us plan for the club's future.

Thanks-

doghows
07-25-2016, 01:35 PM
OK I guess Ill dive in.
I'm probably one of those that has slacked off a lot since last year, and yes I'm behind on my dues. Probably behind on my national dues as well. Life has definitely got in my way this year. I usually make it over to Seattle at least once or twice a year but this year I have not. No one to blame for that but me.
For me I think the club as a whole has not been as active as we were a year or two ago. Tech days were being scheduled a month or two out and now there have been very few. The club seems to only have one or two "club" events a year. The Monroe swap meet, and usually the BCC show oh and the mini.
I would love to see a club event monthly although I know it will be hard right now to get enough support to do it. maybe if enough people are interested we could do a function the Saturday after the meeting?
As far as meetings I know from previous clubs that most people want the fun without the work. Got nothing for that.
So that's my take so far and Ill get off my *** and get current since I still have the club plate on the front of my car.
Lets all try to put the effort in because I think the club is worth it!!

Gitanesteel
07-25-2016, 06:38 PM
Being a brand new member I hope to meet others and attend the mini get together once in awhile. Still having active kids at home (one just finished up her softball season at the 65th game and I was a coach on three different teams) my schedule gets fairly limited until mid to late July.

I do plan on being a member for a long time.

Luva65wagon
07-27-2016, 02:15 PM
Appreciate the input so far, but hope there is more to come from the rest of you.

Technically I consider you both to be the same distance away and would expect neither to feel comfortable with attending meetings. One may be more miles away, but one has a long drive or ferry trip (depending on the choice) so it probably takes the same amount of time coming and going. I know it has been the key reason few, if any, make it to paid activities over on Doghows side. We've made a lot of the tech days, because this is far more important to the betterment of the members. Not always as easy to make shows that charge $25 on average now, and pay ferry charges, food and drink, and gas - to show off the car. Costs as they are these days - I've done no car shows yet this year.

As for activities, we've not done more or less these past few years. Tech days happen as often as anyone asks or needs them to. No ask, no tech day. We did good the first year of the mini, but the second year was far more arduous than I thought it needed to be. And then this year not much representation from our club - though there was pre-interest. The day-of was altogether different.

Anyway, not going to belabor this a lot more myself. This is your opportunity to ring-in and let us know how interested you all are in this club and how we can move it forward... regardless of what forward takes it to. I'll post if nobody else does to keep it in the top 4 for a while.

Gitanesteel
07-27-2016, 03:15 PM
Not always as easy to make shows that charge $25 on average now, and pay ferry charges, food and drink, and gas - to show off the car. Costs as they are these days - I've done no car shows yet this year.


I can see the cost side with all the extras. I'm putting mine in the Kittitas (http://www.kittitascarshow.com/) show at $15 on Aug 13. (the best redneck part is watching the burnout competition in the afternoon). But, again that's a little drive for you. Not sure how many shows I'll do as everything through July will be taken up by softball. However, I do really want to meet some people and attend a mini - just gotta time it right.

ew1usnr
07-27-2016, 04:37 PM
Appreciate the input so far, but hope there is more to come from the rest of you.

Maybe you could video the high points of a club meeting and post them on YouTube?

Thanks, Dennis in Tampa.

BadBird
07-27-2016, 09:52 PM
I mentioned this a while back about getting the monthly newsletter going again. It is computer related and I admit my lack of knowledge, but it does take knowledge, and the older you get, the harder it is to come by.
I still believe it would help, and if anyone who is a computer geek has the time and patience to work with me, I will go forward.
That newsletter would be a good way to communicate our activities, our meeting minutes, national news and good rebuild advice and on and on.
Roger gave me some advice on a site to utilize, but I couldn't figure it out. I hope someone takes the newsletter on as a project. Larry

MacDee
07-28-2016, 11:37 AM
It looks like I have been dropped. Doesn't surprise me, I don't think I've paid any dues in YEARS! I've mentioned that it seemed like it had been a long time since I've paid any dues at some of the past meetings, but was assured that I was up to date!
I think I used to get an email notification when dues were due. I don't think I've gotten one of those in a very long time.
In spite of trying to sell my Falcon, I do want to stay current with the club, both the National club and the local Chapter. I recently paid my National dues (was sent a notification), and would like to pay also for the Chapter. I no longer have a PayPal account, so I would need to mail a check, or something.... If someone could please tell me where to send it? Perhaps Jeff could PM me?

As for suggestions for the club...
It would be nice if there were some sort of occasional get-together other than meetings, shows and tech-days. A cruise to somewhere.... Impromptu show-and-shines.... Something to draw in the Significant Other, or the Whole Family.
We had a cruise, years ago, to Fall City and Snoqualmie Falls. Anyone remember that? It was great fun! As far as I know, we've never done anything like that since.

dhbfaster
07-28-2016, 07:20 PM
The club has been priceless to me, but I haven't been able to get to meetings except one because it's hard for me to get to after work. Now that I'm going to be out of town for another couple years...I can't really say much, but if I was in town (and I'll be back) I'd say...
It would be nice to have a meeting down south now and then, and better yet a little get together at a park or someone's garage on a Saturday.
Sometimes in the summer, a lot of people are just gone too. I'm not sure meetings need to happen every month.

Nathan289
07-30-2016, 08:18 AM
Has anyone looked into moving the club meeting to an area that is closer to where the primary members live?

I dont know the seattle area well enough maybe thats already the case.

I don't know what else can be done to improve attendance.

BadBird
07-30-2016, 09:04 PM
There are issues with summer attendance, that seems to be a concern each year.
We talked about having the meetings every other month and a work day the other month. Not sure why we changed back??
We seem to have the same group at almost all the meetings. We really need everyone to get involved and give input and ideas. The club hands out some great items at the end of the meeting at our drawing. Well, maybe a slight exaggeration in "great". But maybe we can do better as an incentive?
Roger can't run this group all by himself.
The information that Roger put out concerning active paid members is excellent because a lot of people just don't think about it. Also, I am going to keep harping about one thing that needs to happen. Information. Meeting minutes. With attendees noted.
It would also be good if a list of the paid members list was sent out with a check mark or something stating if they are coming to the meeting. Something like a RSVP list? It might make it possible to see that a specific meeting might not make sense.
You asked for input.
As far as having the meeting in a central location. I think that was pretty well thought through by the officers.

On a different note. I drove my Falcon today and I love the 4:11 gearing instead of the higher gears. First time it's been driven since last years Hot August Nights. Also tried out the line lock and it seems to be working fine. Didn't burn the tires yet. Taking it easy on the new posi-trac until it is broken in more.
Larry

Luva65wagon
08-01-2016, 09:19 AM
I have little doubt that a lot of club related issues (all clubs, not just ours) directly relates to how well the president works for the club. I'm guilty of not being overly organized in creating club events, which is in my job description.

As for locations, and meeting frequencies, we are fairly central to all paid members. Some have to travel further every time, and I know that is a challenge. Considering I have to make every meeting (with only a couple exceptions, so far), the location has to be something I can make. That is the biggest hurdle in a community so vast and disconnected. When travel is via a few, often highly congested, freeways - no location is ideal. Also, meetings are bi-monthly and have been that way for a couple years now.

I have talked to other chapter presidents and they lament the lack of attendance for meetings and club events. They have lost some of the drive to do much more unless the membership participation coincides with their efforts. We all agree there has to be a balance. I do work pretty hard on this forum answering questions, but it has not been without some level of consternation.

Finding the time to coordinate other activities, I will admit, is not so easy for me to do. A lot of it comes, now, from burn-out, which is why we are supposed to rotate officers. An attempt to do this last year failed. When nobody wants to step up and participate at that level, eventually it will simply stall, or end.

On a less gloomy note, I received an email from Monte last week describing how another chapter president was able to reach out using the national membership list (specifically those who live in the vicinity, but may not yet be active at the local level). Interesting reading and I still am digesting it. It described using the national and local FCA membership lists as a way to be active in communicating to new members. Something, I also admit, is not something we (I) heartily do.

Again, thanks again for all the input. It's been healthy dialog.

dank2882
08-11-2016, 02:44 PM
Well I just renewed my annual membership for the first time but I still consider myself a newbie to Falcons and car restoration in general. I know I'm late to the table on this topic but I still wanted to chime in so people know I want to be a part as well.

The first thing I would mention is I joined this forum to connect with people who know and love Falcons because I didn't know anything about them. I basically had one dumped in my yard and five years later I finally gave in to it becoming my project car. This forum and club has been awesome for me. Any time I post anything I get educated, informed and enthusiastic responses from multiple people. I honestly don't think I could build this car without this forum. I have never had anyone mock a stupid question or just my lack of knowledge. To summarize I love this forum and really appreciate the help.

As far as meetings, I am in church on Wednesday nights so other nights and days work best but I also don't expect everyone to change long standing times for me but it would allow me to come to meetings.

Also I would love to go to a show and see everyones cars to get ideas and meet people from the club in person.

Side note, again I don't know much but I agree we can't dump it all on Roger and I think he does a great job. Heck, he's probably the best choice currently for our nations president. :-)

Thanks again,

Dan

dhbfaster
08-13-2016, 09:09 AM
Amen. And I'm writing in Roger for US President!

Voodoofalcon
08-15-2016, 05:43 PM
Whoops, it seamed like it's been a while since I renewed. I'm so lapsed I'm not even on the list! I just made out a check for my nation dues and will get it in the mail tomorrow.

I'm a very inactive member , been working on my car for sometime. Going to do 9" swap , new leafs , then tires and wheels this winter so I will be more road worthy. My old Road Huggers are looking pretty haggard .

My dad had a blow out on his mach 1 a few weeks ago. Really did a number to his fender ! Picture does not really show how bowed out it is.

Jeff W
08-16-2016, 12:16 AM
I'm glad your pop is okay. Is that paint missing on the top of the fender from the blow out? I have never seen that kind of damage.:WHATTHE:

Voodoofalcon
08-16-2016, 08:52 AM
Ya that's from the tire. Someone had put a bunch bondo on that fender. Took out the marker light , rock gaurd thing under the bumper , and bowed the whole fender out about an inch. Tires had very few miles and no weather checking. Cruising down I-90 near Sturgis

Luva65wagon
08-16-2016, 08:59 AM
Let me make myself perfectly clear...

No, I do not want the job of US President. You've got to be either crazy or a liar to say you want that job. :rolleyes:

I do appreciate the kind words and continued support.

Bummer deal with the Mustang. Glad everyone is OK, although it's never OK to have to now work on what was already done. And yeah, I see about 3/16" of Bondo up on top that just broke away. Hope the paint can be matched.

Luva65wagon
08-16-2016, 09:22 AM
Also, wanted to comment on the Wednesday night issue. I used to have the same commitment to Wednesday nights. So I get that. If folks have no issue with a day change, we should not be opposed to this if there is something we can do to better accommodate the group.

Doing so would require a notification change at the national level (needs to be updated anyway) and some agreement from the membership. I know many dread coming at all now because traffic is getting so bad, so there may need to be some on-line discussion about this in it's own thread. I will create one if there isn't an immediate resistance to the idea.

BillP 98201
08-16-2016, 10:44 PM
Sorry for the late response. I try and stay current on my dues. This time of year, I'm just swamped. I do appreciate our officers for all they do, and feel kind of guilty for sitting on the sidelines. I have offered my time on the winter if any one needs anything. I really have enjoyed the tech days. I have learned some stuff, and find it amazing the knowledge that is in this club. Don't give up. Is there a group skype kind of thing we can use for meetings? Just guessing. Let's not give up guys......... I think we have something good here

BadBird
08-16-2016, 11:14 PM
Changing days will probably just create and issue for someone else. Wednesdays we also have church activities, but Tuesdays absolutely won't work, so we have tried to skip one church time each month on Wednesdays. Hard to keep us all happy, but I agree, as USA president, you would do better than anyone else. C'mon Roger.
Larry

Luva65wagon
08-18-2016, 09:48 AM
We meet bi-monthly, so it is one Wednesday out of every 8 Wednesday's.

If you have official responsibilities at your church as I did, it's a lot harder to not be there. Same as it is, for me now, with our club. Though it is not the most favored location (BurgerMaster) it was selected (by me) to make it easier for me to be at every meeting. I have had to be traveling for work to have missed any meeting we've ever had, be it the bi-monthly meetings or a tech day.

Suffice it to say you can't make everyone happy or meet every need. When the potential of 30% of those who might attend to not show because it is a Wednesday, then we may need to consider a day change. It would be nice to hear from the other 70% to see if they have reservations or issues with a day change.

US President? I don't understand why anyone would "want" that job. It would be like being the Falcon club president multiplied by 10 billion. Finger on the button to blow away all those Cheby clubs out there. Ford-themed oval office.

:banana:

Jeff W
08-18-2016, 06:17 PM
Ford-themed oval office.

:banana:

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