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karenna
06-28-2008, 09:20 PM
Hello
I just purchased my dream car today, a 1961 Falcon! I am so excited and happy and I can't wait to drive it:shift: I thought it would be fun to join a community of fellow Falcon owners so here I am. My Falcon is all original, and the radio actually works too, what a hoot. The interior is in great condition as is the body, there's very little work that needs to be done to restore it to mint. Does anyone here know anything about putting seatbelts in a Falcon?? Can it be done? Mine doesn't have any and my hubby is not sure about it either :confused:. Well that's all 4 now
Karenna:)

Nathan289
06-28-2008, 10:48 PM
Hello,

Yes seat belts can be added. Usually requires drilling some holes in the floor.
Most aftermarket seat belts come with all the installation hardware to install them.. bolts and really big washers..

I prefer the aviator style seatbelts over the push button style..

Nathan

redfalken
06-29-2008, 08:02 AM
Hi Karenna,

Welcome! Sounds like you found a good Falcon in great shape! Post some photos if you have them.

I'm not sure about a `61 but my `62 had the threaded nut already welded in from the factory for front seat belts. You should be able to crawl under the car and see if they are there. Then you just need to cut a hole in the carpet to install the belts.

When I cut holes in carpet I usually poke an awl through the carpet from below to find the center of the hole and then cut the hole in the carpet with a sharp utility knife. If you or your hubby do any plumbing and have a piece of copper pipe (the size of the hole you want) and propane torch it's even easier. Again, find the center of the hole from below, get the pipe really hot and push it into the carpet as you give it a twist. This will also melt the edges so it won't fray.

I'm positive there won't be any provisions for the rear ones from the factory. Those will have to be drilled. Instructions will probably have guidelines on where to place them but it helps to have someone sit there while you hold them in place and mark the floors.

justahairFalconloopy
06-29-2008, 11:27 AM
ahh...seat belts shmeet belts!!....highly over rated:D
I personally refuse to put any in mine...as soon as you do...then you have to wear them...foooey i say:bicker:........:ROTFLMAO:

ooops....i mean....Welcome!!....sounds lovley ;)

Jeff W
06-29-2008, 12:21 PM
No seatbelts and non-padded dash make for a great combination. I have them in mine.

63RAPTOR
06-29-2008, 12:51 PM
No Seat Belts No Roof Even Better Combination
Absolute 1st Thing I Did To The Convertible.......

redfalken
06-29-2008, 03:01 PM
I'm sort of in the middle on the subject. Lap belts...I don't know. I suppose they're a good thing although I find myself not putting them on when I'm just running short errands (I know. Most accidents happen within 10(?) miles of your home). In a high speed, catastrophic accident I don't put much faith in them. I suppose they would keep you from flying out of the car if it rolled.

Someday I will install 3-point shoulder harnesses in for the front seats and will feel much better about that combination. Until then I just think good thoughts and drive VERY defensively.

redfalken
06-29-2008, 03:03 PM
ahh...seat belts shmeet belts!!....highly over rated:D
I personally refuse to put any in mine...as soon as you do...then you have to wear them...foooey i say:bicker:........:ROTFLMAO:

ooops....i mean....Welcome!!....sounds lovley ;)

So I'm just curious. What are the laws in Canada (or maybe just BC) regarding seatbelts. Do you know if you can get a fine if you have them installed but aren't wearing them? Do they make exceptions for cars that didn't originally have them installed?

63RAPTOR
06-29-2008, 07:55 PM
Back To The Point, Welcome To The Falcon Family,karena
I Might Suggest A Visit To Falcon Parts.com Or Deaborn Classics For The Belts. Hope You Enjoy Your Classic Falcon:)

karenna
06-29-2008, 08:13 PM
Thanks so much. I love my falcon I have dreamed of owning one since I was a little girl of 7. I will enjoy, love & cherish my Falcon 4 life! Thanks 4 the 411 on the parts places too. :)

cometcougar
06-29-2008, 08:42 PM
I added 3 point retractables to the front and just lap belts to the back of my 60 Comet. There was no sign that the car was ever designed to have any sort of seatbelts, even as an option, but it also wasn't too terribly difficult to add them. My main motivation for adding belts was that I knew the car would be driven by my daughter.

Luva65wagon
06-29-2008, 10:05 PM
Yeah... I wear seatbelts and I vote. ;)

I would feel much safer with 3-point belt in my wagon, but I've not had much time to try and rig them in. I've got the interior out at the moment, so now might be the time to look into this option. But yes, at the very least, add some lap belts -- front and rear. It's as easy as drilling holes and installing them with... yes, really big washers. It's ideal to scout underneath the car in the area you would install these and find the area that is two layers of sheetmetal -- if it's got two layers. I'm pretty sure all our cars had seatbelts as an option an Ford strengthened the floor where needed. I've not had a pre-65 car in about 30 years, so I may be wrong about a 61. Really big washers help because it's hard to pull really big washers through the floor.

Nathan289
06-29-2008, 10:07 PM
Macs antique auto parts had the aviator style seat belts listed in their newest catelog for $23 a piece which by far is the cheapest I've seen them..
They even offer a longer size for those who may need it..

Nathan

Jeff W
06-29-2008, 10:45 PM
Hi Roger, please take really good notes if you put three point in your rear seats. When I find a roundbody 2-door wagon, that is first on my list.

Luva65wagon
06-29-2008, 11:07 PM
Jeff... I'd almost think the rear would be far easier than the fronts, since there's not much to bolt to between the front and rear on my wagon. I could easily think of places behind the rear seat to bolt things to. I'll have to go to the Pull-a-Part and see what options I have.

Luva65wagon
06-29-2008, 11:09 PM
Macs antique auto parts had the aviator style seat belts listed in their newest catelog for $23 a piece which by far is the cheapest I've seen them..
They even offer a longer size for those who may need it..

Nathan

Where do you bolt the aviation style? To the floor behind the seat? I've never really looked at those much before.

Nathan289
06-30-2008, 11:56 AM
the avaition style refers to the belt buckle style over anything else. they're not any different than regular seat belts other than they are nicer looking than the cheesey plastic stuff.

The bolt to the floor just like any other seat belt..

Dearborn classics sells them (huge mark up)
macs had them cheapest..
I bought a set from Jake at OFI
I usually get them at the swap meet from one of the hot rod vendors.. usually charges about $30 per, which would be the same as macs by the time you add shipping.

The cool thing about the aviator style is they come in like 30 colors and the buckles are chrome and metal..

Nathan

Luva65wagon
06-30-2008, 12:37 PM
Oh... I thought you were referring to the two belts over the shoulder style -- like you see in race cars. It's the "lift the lever" style they have on aircraft you are referring to then. I still have the original Ford belts with the plastic lifty thing, which most people can't figure out how to open. There's no button and no obvious lift lever. They're not reproduced anyway, so I think the only real option (other than a swap meet) is push buttons and aviator style.

cometcougar
06-30-2008, 02:16 PM
I got my after-market seat belts recently from these guys (seat belt pros dot com)

http://www.seatbeltpros.com/

I am pleased with the belts so far, and the price seemed in line with every where else I looked on the internet. I got the chrome lift "aviator" style buckles.

Luva65wagon
06-30-2008, 02:27 PM
That looks like a great place to shop. Thanks for the link.

I remember seeing a retractable set in an 80's/90's Ranger in the Pull-a-Part a couple weeks ago. I should go see what it would take to pull that out and adapt. Good thing there is they practically give me stuff every time I go. Plus it's fun.

Nathan289
06-30-2008, 11:08 PM
Wow,
thanx for the link that place is pretty neat and their prices are even better..

Nathan

RoundBodyRed
07-02-2008, 07:13 PM
Hey, Welcome! My hubbie and I are quite new too. Isn't it fun to drive!! I recently was in accident in my daily driver that ended in a total loss. The fun part was cruising the new car lots in the Falcon to shop for a replacement. Only one sales guy thought we were trading it in.

We also added seat belts. Bought them from Falcon Parts.com. Real easy to install. No drilling. But again we have a 62.

Welcome again!

Luva65wagon
07-03-2008, 08:54 PM
Ah... another 62. There seem to be a lot of those around these parts; wish I still had one.

pbrown
07-03-2008, 10:12 PM
Ah... another 62. There seem to be a lot of those around these parts; wish I still had one.

I've noticed that to. I was driving home earlier and saw another Falcon. Of course it was a 62.

dogside
07-03-2008, 11:05 PM
saw a sweet blue falcon on my way home tonight on 8th and 85th.