I don't want to talk about it. :o
Almost done Gene. One of your parts is fighting the chrome powder!!
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I don't want to talk about it. :o
Almost done Gene. One of your parts is fighting the chrome powder!!
Here is what the Google machine tells me about Wiener Sales in Tacoma-Pierce County:
Who needs to get a temporary food establishment permit?
Individuals or groups planning to serve or sell food at events open to the public must obtain a permit. If you advertise your event using fliers, banners, newspaper articles, Facebook, or by other means, it is considered a public event.
All temporary food establishments must meet other agency requirements (e.g., local fire department).
Church dinners or other unadvertised events for members and their guests only do not require a temporary food establishment permit.
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I interpret some of the information on this site to mean:
1) Out event falls into"Temporary Food Establishment": 1-14 days
2) Fully cooked Hot Dogs are considered "Low Risk" Catagory
3) "Low Risk" Permit: $100
Read here:
http://www.tpchd.org/food/temporary-food-establishments/
There are also requirements like Outside BBQ needs 4 foot separation/barrier from public and a second hand washing area. (I didn't even know we needed a first)
Please check the above site and be sure I am not missing something. If this is true, my opinion is that we don't want to take the risk or pay more for a permit than we would likely make in proceeds.
It's probably not hard to call ourselves the Church of the Falcons instead. I think I'm at least half-way done writing the Falcon Bible right here on this forum. So we're good!
I didn't call Griots today and ask any information about food, since it was pretty much decided at the meeting to "Don't ask- Don't tell". Before we make any decisions, let me call Griots tomorrow. I am sure they have dealt with this before.. If we do need a permit then I would agree with Jeff, and bag the idea. More to come. Larry
One possibility:
To get around the food permit, could the club supply the fire and individuals supply and cook their own food?
Serve non cooked food....
I didn't make it last year, but if I plan early there is no reason I couldn't make it. It's 50 miles from Woodinville so I wanted to ask if there is normally a convoy/parade enroute or do you just trailer?
Event Insurance Application and check sent!
It's always better to convoy down. I'll be coming down from Lynnwood and there are a few others in this neck of the woods who may want to meet-up and drive down together. We certainly had more convoying back in the evening than we had going south due to the difficulty of coordinating a meeting place that early. Be sure to check back in as the day approaches and we'll see what we can do.
Not having a lot of luck getting someone at Griot's to call me back. So far they are saying we can cook the food and not worry about the license, but then tell me they want to make sure, and will call back. I'll try again tomorrow.
Maybe if we supply the cold dogs and tell people they can cook their own - just like at a picnic bbq - this will circumnavigate the issue. We are only selling the supplies - not the cooked food.
Griots called me back. They mentioned that almost all groups that utilize the cooking facilities are cooking only for their "group". Therefore they haven't needed licenses. He also stated that since the folks coming would be in our "Falcon" group we shouldn't have any issues. He mentioned that most of the groups give out a meal ticket when they pay to register their cars.
We could do something like that?? Since we are not charging for registration I am not sure how to do that exactly. I am willing to go ahead, but should we?
Selling the supplies and letting them cook their own? Might be just the ticket. Carol and I have a saying that we use all the time, "Nothing is easy" so why should this be any different.
I think if we can ask if they want to buy a meal ticket (1 for each person) at registration, and then give them the number they purchase. We can then cook up the dogs and put them in a foil dish and they can make their own in exchange for a ticket. More pot-luck than vendor.
This is more like the Church of Falcon as opposed to the Griot's Car Show (come one, come all) and as such we can just go for it.
One other option might be to contact a local food truck company, who "may" agree to come and setup for nothing and sell food. Or the local boy scouts like we see at Bellevue Car Show. But I'm thinking the first scenario would work too.
I guess unless there is some more info, let's just go with that. I got a $50 gift certificate for lunch or dinner at Sparta's pizza in Lynnwood which is IMHO the best pizza in the universe. I am searching for other gifts. Larry
Last year I talked to the Wart Hog (bbq) in Tacoma and they said they would be happy to bring one of thief trucks and sell bbq to us. Just need to ask them.
If there is no cost to the club, would be worth exploring this route just to get a sense of what is involved.
I have been working on the art-bits sent over by Joanna and have everything changed over. I'm not seeing anything that looks like the post-card we sent, so I'm going to email her to see if that was a file-set I didn't get. Otherwise it's just an issue of throwing all the PDF's onto a flash-drive and taking them somewhere to print. Hopefully they don't need anything more than that. Not sure if anyone has a favorite print shop - or knows where the best deals are for this - but if you do, please let me know.
Theoretically everyone who wants to see them, test their appearance on other computers, or go copy off one or more for their local use, can download them from my dropbox account - here:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/h071v4rv7...BA2LW-F8a?dl=0
Certificate came in the mail today. Our event is covered.
Quick update: getting raffle prizes this year is like pulling teeth. Haven't given up just means it's time to lean on them a bit.
Summit is usually good for bags and stickers, some gift certs are in the mail so not all hope is lost yet. How goes everyone else's battles??
Much has happened since the last meeting. I lost two employees in my department (of the 3 of us) and have now taken over all customer support duties at work. Very long days. This has left me little time, if any, to work on anything. Even writing this I'm letting calls go to voicemail just to get it done. On my "not-so-free time" I am still building two vehicles. Finding it lucky to scrounge up a couple hours per week to do anything but.
I've been growing very concerned about the mini (for a variety of reasons), but not much I can do about it as I've not found a way to add more hours into the day yet. I need to get my truck done in time to haul stuff to and from the swap meet - and that is coming up very soon. I'm not sure I will make that deadline. Truly in headless chicken mode.
I did do the mini art (I think) as noted above, but nobody has indicated having looked at any of it to see if they found anything wrong. I'll have to assume they are fine. I'll probably have to use Kinko's because they are close, but probably not cheapest.
Have still no idea what to do about a post-card mailing. Have no postcard yet or the time to even make it and print them right now. Who mailed these out last year? How was this handled? Can anyone step up to the plate to do this? If not, it may not get done. I might be able to make the art for the post card if someone can handle the printing and mailing part.
There's probably more, but I that's all I have right now.
I pretty much did all of the promotion (or tried) last year but my time is really limited this summer. Someone's going to have to volunteer if we want to get post cards out with enough time to make a difference.
I got the mailing list from the FCA and merged it into a Word template for the labels last year. I got the post cards printed at Staples, bought stamps, stuck on the labels and stamps, and brought them to the post office.
I can always send someone the Word docs from last year for the labels. We will probably miss a few new members but it would be better than nothing.
The sign I made for the main road to point to the show was stolen sometime during the show so someone will need to make another if we want one.
Sorry, I'm swamped. We've got 30 or so paid members but the 5 or 6 of us who put 90% of the effort into the club are probably getting frustrated having to do the legwork. We need some members to step up. I'm guessing I put in 40+ hours of work into last years show but that's not in the cards this time.
Anything from Don and his wife on the raffle end? I might have missed the goodie bag part too is anyone on that? I can get all the bags from Summit?
Kenny - Would it be a least possible for you to find the few minutes needed to at least print those labels? All done on a Mac I'm sure and that's a lot less work for you to print versus someone like me to import to Windows, hope they convert (and they never do), reformat (as needed), and then (fingers crossed) they print OK. I've spent almost 20 hours so far to work through all the art stuff mostly due to conversion issues. Time I really didn't have and now other things are suffering.
Steve - I have no clue right now about the goodie bag stuff. I have literally had zero minutes to go there. I think I still need to make something to compete with the calendar from last year, but I wouldn't swear it will happen now. That's a pretty big project.
And yes, I think there is a lot of frustration going into any club function. If each of us did just a little, I think every one of us can find an hour or two in the span of 3 months to do something to help.
I'll go ahead and contact Summit for one of the show kits and that will cover the bags and stickers. Plus I'll look for stuffing for the bags.
EVERYONE can help with goodie bag stuff. Just ask places. Tire shops love to give trinkets, banks will usually give some pens, use your imagination and help me stuff the bags. You can email or PM me. I am asking for your help on this.
I will keep after the main vendors for raffle items and I'm sure a lot will step up. If you have any thoughts or ideas let me know just in case I have already contacted someone.
About 2 1/2 months to go lets push through it!L!:banana:[thumb]:WHATTHE:
If the artwork can be supplied to me, I'll handle the printing and mailing.
I looked at the previous artwork and it looked good to me.
Thanks Steve & Gene.
I've got quite a few raffle things and will be making another hub-cap lamp or two (probably last-minute) but should have plenty to offer from my "loft".
The labels are just MS Word docs so there shouldn't be an OS issue unless it's a really old version of Word. I would have to go up and buy some more 30 per sheet address labels. Whoever is interested in taking this on, let me know and I'll send the files. If they open up, great. If not I can get labels and print them and bring to the meeting.
Kenny, send me the files. I may even have some labels left from when my daughter was on a swim team. I hafta check. I have a pretty new version of Word, so that shouldn't be a problem. Do you still have my email addy?
Kathy and I have verified that we have the Raffle supplies here. If you have items ready by May 13th meeting, we can take them then.
I request items for goodie bags from my son at O'Reillys and this is what the answer was "I'll have can cozies pens pencils and possibly cooler bags and keychains available in that quantity. Plus T-shirt bags if needed."
I have been to Harbor Freight and got some smalls for the raffle also.
Don B[yay]
Awesome thanks for the update Don. I'll continue in my search for larger prizes and I will have some stuff from my shop as well. [thumb]
I think we're doing pretty good in that department from this report. That's good.
Larger vendors would be nice, but I guess DogHows Powder Coating is the best vendor anyway, so who needs the others.
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I'll be bringing most of my stuff direct to the mini, I think. I'm not so sure I'll have the time by the 13th of May to get into my loft and dig through all my bins, but I'm going to try. I need to pull out stuff for the swap meet which is only two days later anyway. It's just that crazy for me right now. Daily I ask myself whether I should stop at the grocery store and buy food and then cook it - or get fast food. The answer seems to be... Hmmm, I could get that one extra part installed tonight if I could just save that much time.
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I was on-line talking to a planner of a car show I went to in Tucson, about providing food. He tells me they used to cook and sell/provide food for donations. But, they heard horror stories of law suits that people blamed them for bad food. It was from a couple of mountain biking groups. They couldn't prove that the food wasn't bad, so that was the issue. Before they decided to discontinue they checked with their insurance provider and were told that if they went through their local health department and got the proper licenses there probably wouldn't be any issues. PROBABLY scares me. That is why they hold their show in a restaurant parking lot now.
So in my honest opinion, those of you who felt it wasn't a good idea, are probably right.So say ye???
Maybe you can look around (on Google) for Tacoma-based food catering trucks who might be willing to come and park. Perhaps the don't charge for the service but get paid by selling their wares. Wishful thinking anyway.
I think it would be nice to keep people at the venue as opposed to sending them off down the street to get food. We do have two bar-b-q racks there too, so people can probably bring their own stuff to grill if they knew about that.
I did confirm last year that the Warthog BBQ in Fife/Tacoma was more than willing to bring their truck there to sell people BBQ. :BEER: I'd be happy to check on others over the next few weeks and come up with some options. I think we will have several to choose from if we want. Just (one of you leaders) let me know...I don't want to work on this is someone else is already on it.
The food department was taken on by Larry. As long as you and he are in agreement with each other none of the leaders elsewhere are opposed. So it is written, so shall it be done.
Don talked to me about the food and he is going to see if the Warthog BBQ will sell food to us. Everyone that I contacted wanted a guarantee of at least $500 to come. If Warthog BBQ will not charge us to sell, then let's go with them.
Roger, you must have seen the movie "Ten Commandments"? So let it be written, so let it be done.
Can you guys tell me how many people we had last year?
Don unofficially we had 50 or so registered cars. I counted at one point closer to 60. If you figure two per car thats 120 people but I bet there were more than that. Plus the onlookers that showed up to Griots and came over to see the cars. I would guestimate 200-250 people cruised through!?!
I'm back in town from a week-long fishing trip in Canada. I got the last of the postcards sent off to the guys from Canada that signed in at the 2014 Mini. I now have 40 or so postcards left. If anyone wants a few to mail off to friends or whatever, let me know, eh? :)