Seals for wagons and sedan delivery

**redfalken** · September 23rd, 2010, 12:35 PM

Hi Steve,

Roger mentioned at the meeting last week that he's been tearing his hair out at work getting ready for a big show in Las Vegas. He may be knee deep in work right now!

Just thought I'd let you know.

**doghows** · September 23rd, 2010, 02:38 PM

Cool Thanks for the Heads up. I will stand by patiently. Unless anyone else has a clue about these parts.?.

**Jeff W** · September 23rd, 2010, 03:54 PM

I am thinking (I'll know more after you do it) it is the same as the other window channel. I had my gate open last weekend and there was a small bit of the old stuff left and it had the small chrome bead on one side. I would go for this and see if you can cut to length... I think about 16" per side if we are talking about the same thing. I had to replace both of my plastic rollers to get the thing to roll up/down.

Let me know what you find out.

From Falconparts.com - I know it's not the seal you are looking for, but I suspect (and hope) it's the same material.

1960-1965 TAILGATE WINDOW GLASS CHANNEL
Category: GLASS CHANNEL
Product ID: C0DB-59422A36-B
Description: This is the tailgate window glass channel/weatherstrip seal which is mounted on the body. This seal is made of the same material as the door window top and rear glass channel seals and requires the same type of trim to fit installation procedures. It is 96 inches long which is enough material to do both vertical channels as well as the horizontal channel.

**doghows** · September 23rd, 2010, 05:00 PM

That is kind is what I was thinking as well. I have those moldings on the way and I was going to try it. If it works I will order more of it. I will keep you posted. Thanks for the confirmation of what I was thinking.

**Jeff W** · October 17th, 2010, 04:10 PM

Okay.. I have totally disassembled my tailtage. I don't think the inside glass rails are the same as the window run as previously suspected. It appears to be the same rigid track that is used for the division bar on the front door. It's expensive.

**Luva65wagon** · October 18th, 2010, 08:49 PM

Steve,

Don't know how I missed this... but I did. Sorry about that. You should'a knocked me up-side the head when I saw you at the swap meet. I'd have deserved it.

I've stared at my seals and am glad the U-shaped one on the body is in reasonably good shape. They are not reproduced yet. Yes, the glass runners are the rigid bits like those on the division bars, which I bought some of and I don't recall, but I think someone else needed it worse than I did and I "let it go" to someone else. But when I got mine it wasn't all that expensive - but that was 10 years ago. Somewhere I have another set of those, but I have no clue as to how good they are. I have to dig out in the shed on Wednesday to see if I have a big-block water pump, so if I do and they are good they are yours.

I don't know why someplace like Dennis Carpenter doesn't repop all the tailgate seals, since I think they are pretty much the same for 60-65 everything Falcon wagon. But they don't. So it will take making them as best you can.

Did you get my PM about the photo request?

**Luva65wagon** · October 18th, 2010, 09:02 PM

OK, read a little more and yes, the upper seal linked by Jeff is a press-in loose-like seal like those in the front doors, upper and rear and for us with rear windows the same is used. Sadly, this stuff is nowhere near as good a quality as the original and tends to twist and fall out if not glued into place. I think there is some that is higher quality that I saw somewhere (will have to look) and if I had to do it over, I would get the more expensive stuff.

**Jeff W** · October 19th, 2010, 09:30 PM

Originally Posted by Luva65wagon

Steve,

I've stared at my seals and am glad the U-shaped one on the body is in reasonably good shape. They are not reproduced yet. I don't know why someplace like Dennis Carpenter doesn't repop all the tailgate seals, since I think they are pretty much the same for 60-65 everything Falcon wagon. But they don't. So it will take making them as best you can.

Did you get my PM about the photo request?

You must not have looked recently. The "U" seal between the body and lower tailgate. $120. They list 60-63 and a different part number for 64-65. I can find all the parts with the exception of the lower rails we are talking about. I'm going to make mine using the division bar material. You can also buy the original type rivets.

Let me know what you find on a better material for the glass run. I know they sell some with stainless bead... that may add some rigidity and also extra bling that my base model lacks.

Here is a picture of the elusive window channel for the "non-wagon" owners...