Call me crazy - Ranchero's (again)

**falcon cobra** · May 1st, 2011, 04:37 PM

roger what is that primer, or what? I have used that green primer from dupli-color..not bad for a bomb can. looks like dp-40..

**Luva65wagon** · May 1st, 2011, 09:08 PM

Originally Posted by falcon cobra

roger what is that primer, or what? I have used that green primer from dupli-color..not bad for a bomb can. looks like dp-40..

Same stuff as DP40 - AKA self-etching primer. Great on bare metal before doing other bodywork.

The Dupli-Color stuff is really good and I've used it a lot, but I picked up a can of the SEM brand at Wesco. Heluva lot more expensive and seems exactly the same. Will be tracking down more Dupli-Color.

**Luva65wagon** · May 3rd, 2011, 10:15 PM

As I've moved rearward on this - pondering now how I am going to seal that bed panel in a permanent fashion - I started looking at the rusted wheel wells. They are pretty rough. I'm going to repair them one way or the other. I then looked at the pair I cut off the other Ranchero and they are really only slightly better.

In my youth I used a cutting torch on my 62 Futura to make my then 9" rear-end from a Fairlane fit under that car (hey, I was making $2.88 an hour) - and though it was rough, it looked pretty good. So I have been debating, looking on-line at other cars, trying to decide whether to unify the flares on the car.

I'll be stealing a pair of Steve's swap meet rusted, but blasted, fenders to do this. But I don't think you mind - do you Steve? I'll give you a ride in it when I'm done. I don't want them to be an exact copy like most are. I want the rears to have a more round shape instead of flaring out in the back. Minor change.

So, what do you guys think?

Interestingly - that sedan delivery is the same paint scheme I'm going with - but with red paint.

**Luva65wagon** · May 3rd, 2011, 10:23 PM

It would look more like this compared to the image above.

**BillP 98201** · May 4th, 2011, 06:55 AM

Im in the no flare camp

**doghows** · May 4th, 2011, 08:11 AM

Wow really changes the look!?! I really don't care what you do with the fenders. Sell them use them what ever they are there for club use what ever it might be.
I am undecided on the look. You are changing enough stuff on that rig so I say go for it. Might not make the purist very happy but it is your car. I say cut the whole top off and make a roadster out of it.. Oh wait we live in Washington????

**pbrown** · May 4th, 2011, 08:23 AM

I'm in the 'no flair' camp also.

**Luva65wagon** · May 4th, 2011, 08:56 AM

I want the car to have some flair, but not certain about the wheel flare though.

I'm certainly more in the purist camp than the mod everything camp, when it doesn't involve safety. These flares that the car came with are really a pain - both for tire and wheel selection, tire R&R, etc. So I've never been a fan of them except their style, which is unique. Any time I see these flare changes in a forum, the comments are all pretty positive though I'm not a fan of the "front looks exactly like the back" and would mod it slightly, as I said, to make it subtly different.

That said, this car is (was) supposed to be a "path of least resistance" driver... and it is turning into something that is fighting this. There is nothing there right now to work with. The metal is gone and it is flaking away. Bondo is the only thing holding it together. I have to do something to fix the rot. To recreate the stock flare which would require a stretcher/shrinker to do right is not the path of least resistance, but patching the entire side isn't going to be either - no matter how you slice it. I could slather it again with more Bondo.

**doghows** · May 4th, 2011, 12:24 PM

How bad were the rear openings from the gray car?? Are they as bad as the yellow ones?? OR I ordered new ones from Auto Krafters to fix the rotted ones on the delivery. I think it was about $125 per side?? More money I know how that goes... Good Luck and use the force wisely..

**Luva65wagon** · May 4th, 2011, 12:38 PM

I'm still going to go with "the Force" that caused me to cut the template out of one of the fenders last night. I made that patch in all of about 30 minutes - and could better use $300 on something else.

This is not going to be a show car (though it may end up in one or two) - so I really don't care one way or the other. I'd just as soon slather Bondo on it - but I know myself and it would eat me up... and then it would begin to crumble again in a year.

**Luva65wagon** · May 4th, 2011, 12:42 PM

Oh - as I mentioned, the ones off the gray car are not a whole lot better. Not as bad, but would still need tons of work. I need fast forward movement and right now it is all easy to get to and open. So I will probably flare them and use those two sand-blasted fenders.

If you guys vote me out of the club afterward - oh well. Wouldn't be the first time.

**doghows** · May 4th, 2011, 04:30 PM

Don't worry Roger with all my "modifications" on the delivery I may have to join you when we get the boot.

However with your vast knowledge and willingness to help others I think you will be OK...

**pbrown** · May 4th, 2011, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by Luva65wagon

If you guys vote me out of the club afterward - oh well. Wouldn't be the first time.

I think we can let is slide this time. Besides, nobody else want to be president.

**Jeff W** · May 4th, 2011, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by pbrown

I think we can let is slide this time. Besides, nobody else want to be president.

More importantly, Roger is current on his membership dues.

Jeff - Treasurer

**Luva65wagon** · May 4th, 2011, 10:24 PM

Glad to know I'm kind'a safe - as long as my dues are current.

I stared at it some more this evening to see how much less rear flare I can go without mucking up the radius and I can close it up about an inch and a half and it'll actually look pretty good. I really don't like the rear opening of the flare being that flourished. It's OK in the front fenders, but looks too foofy in the rear quarters.

So, I think I'm going to go for it. I pretty much have to cut the entire bottom off the car from the door to the taillight anyway, so this takes care of over 1/2 the total length. And can probably have it done (less the final body work) by the end of the weekend.

I will say up-front my sincerest apologies to all the purists I am about to pis.. uh I mean.. irritate... who happen upon this thread.