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  1. #151
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    It seems like the 3M stuff is pretty expensive, and I assume the Ford stuff about the same- AND I have to go find it, order or get to a store. ...by default I'm just thinking the other way on this one...any reason I can't just use the typical household bathroom or exterior window caulking? I don't see why that wouldn't work fine and I already have a bunch of that in my garage...or is there somethiing suitable I can get at Home Depot when I buy the plastic? (and if I ever need to go back in...I'll still have tubes in my garage and probably plastic left over too.).
    Don Bartlett
    Federal Way, WA
    61 Four Door Sedan
    144-6, 3 on the tree



  2. #152
    Quote Originally Posted by dhbfaster View Post
    It seems like the 3M stuff is pretty expensive, and I assume the Ford stuff about the same- AND I have to go find it, order or get to a store. ...by default I'm just thinking the other way on this one...any reason I can't just use the typical household bathroom or exterior window caulking? I don't see why that wouldn't work fine and I already have a bunch of that in my garage...or is there somethiing suitable I can get at Home Depot when I buy the plastic? (and if I ever need to go back in...I'll still have tubes in my garage and probably plastic left over too.).
    Home Depot has the 3M Super 77 (essentially the same product I use) in a 16.75oz spray can for $9.99, check your local store when you get the plastic sheeting. That would be my first choice vs a household type caulking, even though it would probably work. In planning for the eventuality of getting back in the door, broken window, worn out regulator, etc. you'd want to use a permanently non-hardening, non-silicone type caulk, anything else would be, more or less, really permanent and difficult to remove (especially silicone based caulking) so you could attach a new moisture shield.

    The Ford stuff is non-existent, long since out of production, you'd likely never find any.
    Phil

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    Phil, you would use 3m super 77 spray for the door shields? Seems messy.
    I'm probably going to run down to wesco next week to buy some clips...might they have the right stuff there? (Or something "rope" like?)

    On the outside locks (including the one for the trunk), are there supposed to be pads or seals that go behind those or do they go directly onto the paint?

    Finished the heater and a quite a few other little things...three steps Forward and only a couple backwards today...
    Don Bartlett
    Federal Way, WA
    61 Four Door Sedan
    144-6, 3 on the tree



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    A couple pics of the heater...
    Meanwhile...the 6 heater clips I need are $2.50 each!!
    Today...I already dropped $40 at Harbor freight for little stuff and then another $40 at Orilieys, and I have a falconparts.com list with 6 items on it now.
    Well, my wife has been gone all week and I have eaten nothing but leftovers...maybe I can break even.

    Roger...looks like that carb part isn't going to fit. The two main studs on mine are bigger, and the hole for the pin is also a different size.

    Anyone know who sells the rubber boots on the back of the front turn signals?
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    Don Bartlett
    Federal Way, WA
    61 Four Door Sedan
    144-6, 3 on the tree



  5. #155
    Quote Originally Posted by dhbfaster View Post
    Phil, you would use 3m super 77 spray for the door shields? Seems messy.
    I use the "pro" version (3M8088) all the time, works well, sticks well, can remove easily later without destroying the moisture shield. I don't have a problem spraying it on. If worried about overspray, tape some newsprint along the outside edges or use a piece of cardboard as a blocker and set the nozzle at the narrowest setting.

    It's the only product I ever use for moisture shields whether vintage or modern vehicle.
    Phil

  6. #156
    Quote Originally Posted by dhbfaster View Post
    Roger...looks like that carb part isn't going to fit. The two main studs on mine are bigger, and the hole for the pin is also a different size.
    Missed this Don. That's a bummer. Studs can probably be smaller without an issue - or tapped to a larger size. I assume yours maybe had 3/8" studs and mine used 5/16"? The pin on yours is bigger or smaller threads? Apart from these things was the rest OK? Flange sizes and bore? Center to Center spacing on the log and on the carb? I'm pretty sure if they are the other issues are not hard to address. You can't hurt anything by trying.
    Roger Moore

    63 "Flarechero"
    powered by: 347ci stroker | Tremec T5 | 8" 3:45 TracLoc rear



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    Ok, my rookie find it question of the day:
    In the pic below...

    Item 1 is a hook with rubber on the hook area used in several different places including to hold the wires on the tail lights.

    Item 2 is for the grille. (All heavily corroded and broken). I think i have found more modern replacements at autofastco.net but shipping is $20 (a lot for just one item imho) and it would be nice to have the Origional style if available.

    Item 3 and 4. Are for the grill and headlights. I swear I used to see these everwhhere, but now i can't find these anywhere.

    Any help to point me in the right place or if someone has a box of extras lying around would be most appreciated!
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    Don Bartlett
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    61 Four Door Sedan
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    I'm sure Wesco has at least the #3 and #4. There is several Wesco in the area including Tacoma.

    I think they are called "J-Clips" or "J-nuts"

    http://www.wescopbe.com/stores.htm
    Last edited by Jeff W; June 17th, 2015 at 12:06 AM.

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    .I was at Wesco at lunch yesterday. They can order the new version of item 2 by the box of 50 ($24) and the others...nope. I was surprised but they didn't have them available. They had "speed nuts" that look similar, but not u-clips.

    Woke up so did a little more searching of your suggested terms Jeff...it looks like Orilieys might have them ...u nuts, and also...check out this place: http://www.clipsandfasteners.com/Nuts_U_s/115.htm
    Really good prices and seems comprehensive.

    So..any thoughts on how to search for those hooks?
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    Don Bartlett
    Federal Way, WA
    61 Four Door Sedan
    144-6, 3 on the tree



  10. #160
    Check this source Don - http://www.amkproducts.com/

    View the catalog .pdf, go to pg 143 and look at the rubber coated J clip. I think this might be the one you need, don't know of any other source for them. They also have some hard to find hardware, like the 5/16 - 24 bolts and J clips I used on your car.

    Clipsandfasteners is where I get hardware my local jobber doesn't stock. I always try my jobber first because his prices are the same as the online source but no shipping charges.
    Phil

  11. #161
    I've bought a few things from Restoration Specialties before. They have a lot of oddball automotive fasteners. Some not cheap but if you need them, what ya gonna do...

    Here's some j-clips:

    http://stores.restorationspecialties...achine-thread/

    Kenny Likins
    Ballard, Seattle, WA
    www.redfalken.com

    `62 Tudor Sedan (`69 200, C4, 8-inch 4-lug 2.79 rearend, Duraspark II, MSD, Weber 32/36 DGEV)

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    Thanks Kenny...

    Meanwhile...it seeks like it's been long days at work before I ger home every day, BUT trying to get SOMETHING on right every day...here's rodays small accomplishment!

    (Look familiar Roger?)
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    Don Bartlett
    Federal Way, WA
    61 Four Door Sedan
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  13. #163
    Looks good Don. Did you get that solenoid from me? Been out of town myself the past week, so just getting caught up.
    Roger Moore

    63 "Flarechero"
    powered by: 347ci stroker | Tremec T5 | 8" 3:45 TracLoc rear



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    Whew...kind of quiet on the forum lately.
    Yep, that's the solenoid you gave me Roger.
    Out of town enjoying a break this weekend. BUT, Phil came over for some touch ups last weekend and it does look great. Pic attached...
    It seems like I've got several key pieces waiting on small parts to come in.
    Hopefully things will start to move faster this week.
    That said...hopefully I'll be running before the rainy season hits... mini 2016 here I come.
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    Don Bartlett
    Federal Way, WA
    61 Four Door Sedan
    144-6, 3 on the tree



  15. #165
    Quote Originally Posted by dhbfaster View Post
    Whew...kind of quiet on the forum lately.
    I was on vacation.
    Roger Moore

    63 "Flarechero"
    powered by: 347ci stroker | Tremec T5 | 8" 3:45 TracLoc rear



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