Well..... Jeff, I probably flipped by that pic 200 times since I had that book and didn't think to look at it. That's what I get for working so late. And that's why I have the Falcon Gods! Thanks.
So, I gave it a try. It's got a slight bend to it that does add some friction- especially since I ran the hose that way....which seems to be different from that picture too, but I do think it's a cleaner run on the left. I have a hunch the added friction is why people tend to put them over the top. Of course, that pic seems to be an artists rendition...I have to wonder which way they were in production. Anyway, it seems to work for now. If it gets too sticky I can always change it. Thanks all!
A pic attached....and what do you guys think of my hose strap reproduction? That's the original metal ends from the old strap, painted, then with some new conveyor belt material a place gave me and new screws. I think it looks pretty good!
Meanwhile...the dash is about done. Only thing left are the turn signals and parking brake. I think it's starting to look like I might get there some day...
I also finally got the engine fuel line on tonight...should have all the hoses and lines hooked up tomorrow night. My goal is to have the engine compartment done (pre-startup inspection) except for the brake lines by Friday eve. Should be pretty close....we'll see. I'm out to Vancouver for a hockey game with the family this weekend....but after that I'm back at it.
Last edited by dhbfaster; February 16th, 2016 at 10:31 PM.
Don Bartlett
Federal Way, WA
61 Four Door Sedan
144-6, 3 on the tree
I think the longer hose that doesn't go to the carb spacer is supposed to go on the drivers side of the carb. My valve cover (at least one I had) has a stud for a hose holding clamp.
I think leaving it where it is may interfere with your throttle linkage
The rest looks just awesome. You are doing some great work.
Last edited by Jeff W; February 16th, 2016 at 10:54 PM.
Jeff Watson
Seattle, WA
'63 Tudor Wagon (170 - 3 spd.)
Thanks for that note Jeff...I noticed last night that in the pic you posted from the manual it is on the valve cover side and it seems to have a clip there.
I was going off a "before" picture I took - attached. Mine does not have a clip there for the hose (any more?) Hard to say how it was when new, but I'm going to give it a try on the valve cover side tonight and see how it works. Thanks!
Don Bartlett
Federal Way, WA
61 Four Door Sedan
144-6, 3 on the tree
Sorry, us (Oh My) Gawds have been a little under the gun of late.
The issue with the choke cable is one of access. If the access is direct above, it goes above - if below, it's below. I think it has changed over the years based upon the carburetor installed. Though I don't have an image in my head of each carburetor and their choke cable connection, or height of each carburetor, which could affect this, the rule should be to route the cable that allows it to head directly to its source without adding any kinks or sharp bends or making contact with moving or hot items. Not always easily possible, but it is the rule. In this case the sweeping bend it takes is benign, but it would perhaps be more intense in the distance between the brace and carburetor if not a direct hit.
Choke cable from the factory would have been sleeved where they contact (or could contact) some other item to keep them from rubbing themselves raw. Most after-market replacement cables are bare metal end-to-end. The plastic sleeve does get brittle over time, so it's not surprising to see a factory cable without it, especially past the firewall where it is baking above the manifold. If it flows over the top of the support, I think your plan for the clear rocker panel material is brilliant.
Go GREEN!
Roger Moore
63 "Flarechero"
powered by: 347ci stroker | Tremec T5 | 8" 3:45 TracLoc rear
Gawd (I kind of like that Roger) any thoughts on the routing of the long heater hose?
Don Bartlett
Federal Way, WA
61 Four Door Sedan
144-6, 3 on the tree
Here is a picture of the engine under my bench. Note the stud and hose bracket.
Jeff Watson
Seattle, WA
'63 Tudor Wagon (170 - 3 spd.)
Here's the bracket Jeff mentioned in-use on my wagon. You have to have the stud on the valve cover to do this. I think they all had them even that early and haven't gone back through all your thread page images to see if you've posted this view recently.
wagonbay1.jpg
This side shows the other hose, but it now feeds a water-based choke housing instead of heating the carburetor base like yours does. The red part on the hose just keeps the hose from rubbing on the fuel line and transferring heat from the hose to the fuel line as well.
wagonbay2.jpg
Roger Moore
63 "Flarechero"
powered by: 347ci stroker | Tremec T5 | 8" 3:45 TracLoc rear
Roger - I think I see a light sprinkling of dust on top of your blower motor. You may want to get in there with a microfiber and get that taken care of...
Jeff Watson
Seattle, WA
'63 Tudor Wagon (170 - 3 spd.)
You're funny. Though I did, in-fact, see that in the picture today and thought to myself - "I out to clean that."
Roger Moore
63 "Flarechero"
powered by: 347ci stroker | Tremec T5 | 8" 3:45 TracLoc rear
Guys, thanks for the distraction. Yesterday morning I ended up taking my wife to the ER because she was buckled over in pain like I'd never seen before....to make a long story short, it turned out she had appendicitis - so, they did the surgery last night and I finally took her home from the hospital this afternoon and she is just fine now. Maybe a higher God was watching over both of us yesterday...but poking into the forum now and then over the last couple days was a great way to get my mind off the situation for a few minutes here and there- so, thanks for that to all of you guys.
Meanwhile, I'm a little behind on the engine compartment, but our other weekend plans were cancelled, so I suspect I'll have at least a little chance to catch up this weekend.
Back to business...based on the previously matching paint scheme and history in the family...pretty sure my valve cover is original and it does not have a clip (hose holder) or place for the bolt on top. It seems like the bottom line is that as long as I run the heater hoses and the choke cable in a way that has no interference with the function of anything it's going to be fine...
Don Bartlett
Federal Way, WA
61 Four Door Sedan
144-6, 3 on the tree
I'm glad that your wife came through it alright.
That is amazing how quickly all that was accomplished.
It makes me think of the pit crews at Daytona:
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Dennis Pierson
Tampa, FL
"The Wonder Falcon"
'63 Futura Hardtop (260, Ford-O-Matic, bench seat)
Wow Don. So happy she's OK. Certainly happy to hear that. Things like that always put things into perspective. When it comes to improvements in medical science its good we live now and not even 100 years ago.
I guess they found the hose was wearing out the paint and made a bracket for it. But yeah, keep it out of the moving bits and you'll be fine.
And for the record... it was best 6 cylinder engine.
Roger Moore
63 "Flarechero"
powered by: 347ci stroker | Tremec T5 | 8" 3:45 TracLoc rear
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