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  1. #1
    I've heard a lot of "I've heard a lot of people say" this last year. Not sure why.

    Here's a not so scientific comparison of what I'm concerned about. Though the pinion angles are not the same between each in the pictures, so the lengths are not going to be the same with each using my dividers, you can see in the 8" the distances between the pinion center to the base of the backing plate is identical (I'm not adjusting the divider at all in these pictures). If you assume the pinion angle tweaks the adjustment I'd need to make to the divider, there is a visible off-set from left to right.

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    Roger Moore

    63 "Flarechero"
    powered by: 347ci stroker | Tremec T5 | 8" 3:45 TracLoc rear



  2. #2
    This set of pictures is only of the 8.8" and the divider adjusted to the shortest distance. You can see on the left it is shorter. Your measurements will be more accurate.

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    Roger Moore

    63 "Flarechero"
    powered by: 347ci stroker | Tremec T5 | 8" 3:45 TracLoc rear



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    Finally got the axles measured and it surprised me a bit with what I found. So here is my best description of what I measured.

    8" axle from center of pinion bolt to drivers backing plate= 25&1/2"
    to drivers WMS = 29&1/2"
    to pass backing plate = 25"
    to pass WMS = 28&1/2"

    8.8" axle from center of pinion bolt to drivers backing plate =27"
    to drivers WMS =29&1/2"
    to pass backing plate =25&1/2"
    to pass WMS = 28&1/2"
    So it looks like the WMS to WMS is exactly the same on both axles, the difference is in the drum thickness vs the disc brake thickness.
    The only measure me I wish I would have done and wil do is put a tape from WMS to WMS and see if the pinion nut is the same between both axles.
    Let me know if you see anything I am missing or misinterpreting.
    63 Sedan Delivery
    5.0 HO EFI AOD 8" rear

  4. #4
    Guessing, but WMS is... wheel mounting surface perhaps?

    8" - Not sure how you can have only 1/2" difference left/right to backing plate, but 1" difference to the WMS Backing plate to WMS would also have to be 1/2" different end to end.

    Odd.

    8.8" - You seem to have a similar offset.

    So, I don't know why that is. I guess just hope the pinion yoke ends up going down the tunnel close enough to center.

    Generally, like pinion angle versus extension housing/yoke angle needs to be similar, you don't want to inject a left/right offset of the driveline going back. U-joints don't like getting too many differing angles to get from here to there. Short linkages, like steering, you can get by with this, some, but driveline angle differences usually induce vibrations.
    Roger Moore

    63 "Flarechero"
    powered by: 347ci stroker | Tremec T5 | 8" 3:45 TracLoc rear



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    Ok did a couple last measurements. I ran a tape from wheel mount surface to wheel mount surface, both axles are the same width side to side. Now while I had the tape on there I used a straight edge from the pinion nut center to see if it was the same on both axles.
    There was a difference of 1/4" between the two. The 8.8 is offset to the drivers side by 1/4 compared to the 8" axle.
    I'm shooting to set it in this weekend and we'll see how it all lines up but I think it's right on the money. Fingers crossed!!
    63 Sedan Delivery
    5.0 HO EFI AOD 8" rear

  6. #6
    Amazing. If cutting 3" out has it centered, the 8.8 must have had a 3" offset to begin with. Nothing saying the driveline ran down the center of the Explorer. You'll know soon enough if it works good. Good Luck.
    Roger Moore

    63 "Flarechero"
    powered by: 347ci stroker | Tremec T5 | 8" 3:45 TracLoc rear



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    I didn't even think to take a pic before I cut it but yes it was definitely offset from the explorer.
    I'll stuff it in this weekend for mock up and click a couple pics.
    63 Sedan Delivery
    5.0 HO EFI AOD 8" rear

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