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    And I'm right nearby to lend a hand!

    Kenny Likins
    Ballard, Seattle, WA
    www.redfalken.com

    `62 Tudor Sedan (`69 200, C4, 8-inch 4-lug 2.79 rearend, Duraspark II, MSD, Weber 32/36 DGEV)

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    It's not a dual-vacuum distributor, but a mechanical-vacuum unit. A vacuum diaphragm AND fly weights. The distributor that came on the 200 was a vacuum-only unit. I had considered the DUI ignition that Classic Inlines sells, but decided it was an expensive over-kill for the this engine. I know this will sound silly, but the Duraspark distributor just looks funny! I like the idea of a "stock" distributor updated with top-of-the-line Pertronix. Open the hood and you'll see what looks like a period-correct distributor and a coil, just like you would with a stock engine. For some reason, that just appeals to me.

    Pat, thank you for your offer! I especially like the idea of beautifying the engine bay with the engine out. I was (am?) concerned I just wouldn't have time to do that if we were in banzi-swap mode, just trying to get her running as quick as possible. I think rattle-can Rustolium black would be sufficient for the black areas. I would like to try to match the baby blue as close as possible for the small area at the top of the firewall and the underside of the hood.

    I'm assuming Carter and I will have the engine and trans finished before he goes in for surgery. That would put it in October some time. I'll try to nail down a date better the next time I see him.
    Gary MacDonald
    ROGER's...
    EX... '63 Hardtop
    Had...
    Scarebird front discs
    200 w/ CI alum head
    C4

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacDee View Post
    The distributor that came on the 200 was a vacuum-only unit.
    Are you quite sure about that. I've not seen a distributor, produced after the 30's, that didn't have mechanical advance.
    Patrick Brown
    331 Stroker / T5 / 8" / Wilwood Disks / RRS R&P Steering / Megasquirt EFI


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    While I'm here, a question about the forum; Why does the new post end up on the top of the page half the time, and half the time at the bottom/end of the thread? Took me a few drives around the block to get here


    I'm totally with Gary on the distributor issue; Ever since I saw my first Duraspark I knew I didn't want one. Don't like the looks of the MSD boxes and extra wiring either, and like my engine bay as clean and simple as possible...

    As for the vacuum advance, he's right on that point too; Ford didn't put mechanical advance in (at least) the small six dist. until '67, the reason a '67 one barrel carb will work, but not properly on an earlier engine without swapping in the later dist. The later carbs were built with different internal circuitry to pull a different amount of vacuum through the line to the dist. to compensate for the added mechanical advance. And now you know more than you ever cared to about stock 6cyl ignition/carburetion
    Thor Johnson
    www.flickr.com/photos/sedanman
    Low & Slow '64 2dr Sedan
    Stock(for now)200 I-6, Lokar shifted C-4, Wedge kit,V-8 coils, dropped granada spindles/discs,GT leaves,3.0 8 inch

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    While I'm here, a question about the forum; Why does the new post end up on the top of the page half the time, and half the time at the bottom/end of the thread?
    I have never seen that. The default is for new posts (replies to existing threads) to always go to the bottom. You can override that in the your account settings but I doubt you did that.

    Notice that any unread post/thread will have a small blue arrow next to it. Clicking on that will take you to the first unread post. Clicking the title of the thread will always take you to the top of the thread where you will have to scroll down to find the unread posts.

    I'm totally with Gary on the distributor issue; Ever since I saw my first Duraspark I knew I didn't want one. Don't like the looks of the MSD boxes and extra wiring either, and like my engine bay as clean and simple as possible...
    Not that the DS2 distributor cab is just a cap adapter with a big ugly cap on it. Underneath is a normal small sized dizzy. Just get a 200 cap and rotor and you'll have a DS2 with a small cap.

    You would still need an ignition box. The upside is if you are on a long drive you'll be able to get a replacement part at the nearest part store. I don't think that would be true for the Ignitor. Keep in mind that I don't have anything against the Ignitor.

    As for the vacuum advance, he's right on that point too; Ford didn't put mechanical advance in (at least) the small six dist. until '67, the reason a '67 one barrel carb will work, but not properly on an earlier engine without swapping in the later dist. The later carbs were built with different internal circuitry to pull a different amount of vacuum through the line to the dist. to compensate for the added mechanical advance. And now you know more than you ever cared to about stock 6cyl ignition/carburetion
    I stand corrected. I had to go look it up. What a dumb design.
    Last edited by pbrown; September 7th, 2009 at 07:07 PM.
    Patrick Brown
    331 Stroker / T5 / 8" / Wilwood Disks / RRS R&P Steering / Megasquirt EFI


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    I stand corrected. I had to go look it up. What a dumb design.
    Yes, Yes it is...

    It's also why its difficult to determine if its a carb or faulty Spark Control Valve

    Nathan
    Nathan and Jen Cooper
    63 Sprint Hardtop "Dollora"
    63 Super deluxe squire wagon "Mayble"
    * this spot is vacant for future project*

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    Yes it is stupid design indeed. This is why I can't wait to get everything back together with my milled head, and Pony Carbs one barrel with my later distributor (need to get it re-curved). I've never driven this car with the correct carb/dist combination on a 200, and am looking forward to seeing how much better it runs. It won't be the same HP gain Gary will be experiencing, sadly..

    Nathan - I've gotten rebuilt kits for my 1101, and the new spark control valve seems "stuck" if you try and push on the spring; Have no idea how you tell if it's bad or not. Luckily I'm saying goodbye to all that soon.
    Last edited by Sedanman; September 7th, 2009 at 10:33 PM.
    Thor Johnson
    www.flickr.com/photos/sedanman
    Low & Slow '64 2dr Sedan
    Stock(for now)200 I-6, Lokar shifted C-4, Wedge kit,V-8 coils, dropped granada spindles/discs,GT leaves,3.0 8 inch

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