Freddie's Back on the Road!

**SmithKid** · March 17th, 2015, 04:46 PM

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**MacDee** · March 17th, 2015, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by Luva65wagon

I do... would you like me to bring it to the meeting tomorrow?

YES! I'll be there.

Thank you, Roger!

**Jeff W** · March 17th, 2015, 08:24 PM

I guess the good news to all this replacement is your car should be like new when it's over. Nothing wrong with getting new bearings and brakes. I think you will owe me a Coke when we discover it is the exhaust

**Luva65wagon** · March 18th, 2015, 10:53 AM

Well... it took some digging... but I found it. Not sure why what you are looking for is always in the last place you look, but I found my flywheel and it also has the pressure-plate and disc attached. More inertia I guess.

I didn't think about it until I was already on my way into work this morning that you may need different flywheel to crank bolts (longer?) for this. Maybe not. I'm sure I have some... somewhere. He'll know if there is enough thread engagement or not.

Sorry Freddie is being such a pain. Seems to be the norm for me lately. Nothing I have built in the past few years seems to be working right out the gate. When doing my 289 swap on the Flarechero the C4 had to be pulled due to the wrong flexplate (had a 50oz instead of the 28oz balance) and now on another car the tranny is coming out because they sent a 157 tooth flywheel instead of a 164 tooth - and it wasn't caught in time. Trust me - I don't like taking things apart once they are already together! But it tends to be happening more and more!

Maybe it's me!

**MacDee** · March 18th, 2015, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by Jeff W

I think you will owe me a Coke when we discover it is the exhaust

To find out for sure, all I gotta do is convince Randy to run the thing UNCORKED!

...right?

Originally Posted by Luva65wagon

Sorry Freddie is being such a pain...

At least there is PROGRESS!!!

**MacDee** · March 25th, 2015, 12:34 PM

So...
Randy installed Roger's flywheel and has run the engine without the transmission.
The vibration was GONE!!

He's having his transmission guy take another look...

Personally, I still suspect the torque converter... (...or the flex plate?)

**Luva65wagon** · March 25th, 2015, 02:37 PM

Those are about the only two options - but glad you narrowed it down!

**SmithKid** · March 25th, 2015, 02:45 PM

It is unclear to me from your past posting regarding the trouble-shooting. You said:

"He has run the car, in gear, up on a lift and traced the vibration along the entire drive train with a stethoscope. The only thing left to check now is the engine itself."

Does this also mean he ran the engine with the drive shaft out (tail shaft yoke required)? Or in Neutral? This, combined with Roger's flywheel testing would positively point to flex-plate, torque converter, or C-4.

**Luva65wagon** · March 26th, 2015, 09:51 AM

It is unclear to me how this thread could be called 'Freddie's back on the road' when clearly 'Freddie is back in the shop' would be a better title.

But Gene has a point. We've only narrowed it down to "not engine" and there is a lot going rear-ward, unless, of course, it was vibrating just running in Park and now isn't with my flywheel. That would leave it to be only flex-plate or torque converter. The torque converter should be neutral balanced and I'm not aware of the flywheel/flex-plate on a 200 having any imbalance like the 28/50oz option on a 289/302. Have never researched this.

**MacDee** · March 26th, 2015, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by SmithKid

Does this also mean he ran the engine with the drive shaft out (tail shaft yoke required)? Or in Neutral? This, combined with Roger's flywheel testing would positively point to flex-plate, torque converter, or C-4.

I don't know if he ran the engine without the driveshaft... or in neutral. One thing I did notice for the short time I had her back: the little hula girl on the dash danced a "shimmy", on and off, at about three-second intervals, when the engine was idling. And I don't think it mattered if it was in gear or not....
...and I never noticed her doing that before the rebuild.

Can I change the Thread title?
"Freddie Was Back on the Road, but Not for Long"

**SmithKid** · March 26th, 2015, 01:09 PM

Or maybe.... Freddy Will be back on the road.

**Luva65wagon** · March 26th, 2015, 03:47 PM

Or Maybe - The Curse of The Freddie! Coming to a theater near you.

**MacDee** · May 14th, 2015, 12:59 PM

As some of you already know...
Freddie is BACK ON THE ROAD!!
I picked her up from Long's Car Care yesterday morning. The culprit turned out to be the torque converter.
She now has new wheel bearings, new axle bearings and seals, new rear brakes and wheel cylinders, a newly rebuilt transmission... upgraded with V8 clutch packs, and... a new torque converter. In the past 11 months, I have just about doubled the total investment I've made in this car.

However, she now runs and drives great!

See y'all at the Ford Picnic...

**MacDee** · May 21st, 2015, 10:47 AM

So...
We took a little drive last weekend. Did some shopping, and when we took off to go home, I inadvertently selected second gear instead of drive. Since the reverse lock-out was marginal, whenever I do this (this was the third time I've ever done it...), I pull off, stop, reselect Drive, and go again. Wife said, "I'm not riding in this thing again until that is fixed." So, back to Long's she went with the new shift collar in the front seat.
Got her back last night, new shift collar installed. The shifter works GREAT now!! I would have no qualms about shifting while in motion now.
But...
On the way home from picking her up, I pulled off of the main highway on to the road approaching our neighborhood, and she LOST ALL DRIVE! Acted like it slipped into neutral, but that wasn't it. I could shift, and it would feel normal, and I could hear/feel the transmission responding, but no drive to the wheels! When I shifted into gear, there would be a mild metal-to-metal scraping sound, but no drive. Shift into neutral or Park, and the scraping sound stops.
Isn't there, like, one band that engages the drive? Maybe it broke, or popped loose, or something?
She'll be on the tow truck back to Long's again this morning.

**Luva65wagon** · May 21st, 2015, 11:49 AM

Man, you can't win for loosing! It's beginning to sound like you need to change the name of this thread to Freddie's Back in the Shop!

Or maybe that has already been suggested in this thread at some point.

Definitely sound like either a band popped loose or the torque converter shredded itself. Maybe it's time for a 5-speed...

Maybe Freddie has a last name and it is Kruger?