It's the wife's fault!!!

[Nathan289]

Progress update pictures.

[redfalken]

Looking good! What are the four holes in the air cleaner for?

[Nathan289]

Kenny

No clue.. but I'd love to know.

I think there is supposed to be baffle or a pre filter in the air cleaner. At least that's the Impression I get from the shop manual when reading the pcv section in the 63 supplement.

But I dont know because all I have is the holes.

[Nathan289]

She's Alive!!!

Primed the oil system.

Primed the fuel..

She fired up on the third try.

I have it running and after 20 minutes of break in, I timed her, wow was I way off on her timing. Had to advance the timing like 25*.

Re torqued the head gasket.
Checking valve lash next.

[Nathan289]

She's been driving.

I still have bugs to work out.

Steering wheel is 90* off.to the right to drive straight..

Biggest problem is I have a engine knock. I thought it was detonation. Might still be but its at idle and goes away if I increase rpms..

I think it goes away if I retard the timing below specs.

But I have put 10 to 15 miles on her. She runs and drives great. Temp gauge reads 1/2. Gas gauge works. Put 5 gallons in it and it reads 1/4 tank.

The wife is shopping for a 57-66 f100.. short box. Step side
I'm doomed.

[ew1usnr]

Mayble is back on the road! She's rolling again! Yaaaaaaaaayyy!!!!

Congratulations, Nathan! That is terrific!

[dhbfaster]

Nice...that's got to feel good Nathan...I feel like I should be hitting a like button.

[Luva65wagon]

That thing's hideous!



Just kidding. But I don't envy your finding all that Squire trim, which looks pretty perished. Anytime I've seen a piece here, and a piece there, they want your first-born for it.

But it must feel good to get it this far! I would be concerned by the knock though. Hopefully it is timing.

[Jeff W]

Why are you spending all the efforts and money on a station wagon? They just are not that cool.

No... wait, they are. Lookin' great!

[Nathan289]

There's a website on how to restore the trim, which I'll be doing maybe this winter.
I have all the trim, but I have a few broken pieces. I'll attempt to locate what I can. There was a set minus fenders on ebay for $300.. problem is I dont need the whole car and I could use one fender.

I have a feeling I'll be dropping the oil pan and checking rod bearings.. I got lazy and didnt check it when I assembled it. I should have.

The thing is ugly.. I got new seat foam for the buckets. Now I need to get seat material. If only falcon interiors wasn't so expensive.

Is it possible for wrist pins to knock? I had 4 frozen wrist pins and maybe my engine guy didnt resize them correctly?

You wouldn't think it would be timing knock at idle with timing set at 10* but maybe.. im taking today off from working on it.

[Luva65wagon]

One trick you can try is to pull a plug wire at a time (carefully) while it is knocking. If you pull a plug and the knock ceases, then focus on that cylinder... somewhere in the bowels of the motor. If pulling any plug causes it to cease, hire an exorcist. If pulling a plug never causes it to stop knocking, I'd consider more a main, or some other part of the motor that is working hard no matter what's happening within the ignition/spark/combustion side of things.

Sounds like you may not have plastigauged the bearings prior to assembly, but that's the only real way of knowing the machinist ground the crank correctly and that the bearings are all correct (regardless of how they are marked). I'll assume you torqued everything with a good torque wrench, and as such not mention this as a possibility.

Not sure if you disassembled/cleaned/inspected the rocker arms on this, but these are notorious for wearing the shaft badly and depending on how bad could produce an RPM-based noise.

Are you running a good oil pressure gauge or the light on the dash? Maybe you are suffering from low RPM oil pressure issues?

I'm sure you'll track it down, but I don't suspect it's the wrist-pins. You had to bore this motor out and any machinist would have addressed the connecting rods long before they installed the pistons - including sizing the rod journals and the wrist pin holes. If they didn't...

[Nathan289]

Ive done the cylinder drop test 3 times.
The knock persists.

So it either mains or rocker shaft.

I attempted to take the shaft apart and failed. It seemed like a lot of force required to remove the rockers. So I just cleaned out the oil holes.

I have the oil light no pressure gauge installed. Maybe I should do that.

You're correct I skipped the plasti gauge and its biting me in the ***. This is the 3rd six my guy built for me.

Anyway I look at it. Only piece of mind I'll have his to drop the pan. It will be messy but it has to be done.

I've already eliminated the fuel pump as a possible cause.

I cant think of anything in the distributor making noise.
It sounds low in the block so I doubt rocker but maybe.

I'll start with a oil pressure test as if the idle is 1000 rpms I have no knock at any timing.

[Nathan289]

Oil pressure at idle is 48 psi
Idle is 650 psi..

Im thinking its in the rocker shaft.

I also have an occasional miss.

Anyone have an adjustable rocker shaft that I can buy?

[Luva65wagon]

Idle is 650 PSI!

I think I have the rocker set from my Ranchero. I hope I didn't use that on someone else's motor, but I might have. I'll look around as soon as I can. Probably tomorrow morning, earliest.

[Nathan289]

Lol yea.. rpms.. not psi

I have 48 psi @ 650 rpms and 54 psi @ 1700 rpms.

my knock is more of a heavy rattle..

I took apart my rocker shaft.

I found it is bowed in the middle. Set against my straight edge I have a 1/4" bow in the middle.



The middle of the shaft where the bow is is worn really bad from the rockers. I measured the groove in the shaft with a feeler gauge and measures .012".

I'm kicking my self wishing I didnt give my spare away. Except is wasnt a spare at the time, it was a un need. Doh.

So this is an apb all points bulletin for a gently used rocker arm assembly. Mechanical lifter set up.

Roger hope you can locate yours..

Thank,
Nathan