Rainier Falcons > The FalconForum  

Go Back   Rainier Falcons > The FalconForum > General Forums > Show Off Your Ride

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 02-01-2017, 02:59 PM
Luva65wagon's Avatar
Luva65wagon Luva65wagon is offline
Chapter President
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Lynnwood
Posts: 4,265
Blog Entries: 4
Freddie comes alive!

1963-ford-falcon-hardtop-1.jpg

Well, not yet, but just starting a thread to show that something's happening with Freddie now that he's been adopted. Hopefully as I add to this thread it will allow you all to feel like I do as I move Freddie forward.

Of course right now Freddie is still undercover in my carport, but the plans as they currently exist are:

1) Work to resolve the drivability issues.
It's a plain shame how much Gary spent (time and money) to get Freddie running right. Though Gary felt it was pretty good-to-go finally, apart from the dashpot, my feeling is the car has some issues still. A vacuum leak perhaps. I might be wrong, but this is the way I felt it was behaving. After some conversation with Gary it is now known that there is no intake manifold gasket in-use on Freddie - just gasket sealer - and although this might be OK if everything is machined and mated correctly, I will pull the intake off and verify there is no evidence of leakage just for my satisfaction.
2) Dynamat the interior.
I've got a lot of Dynamat coming to probably do Freddie head to toe. That way when I'm playing Doobie Wah on the stereo it will be clear and crisp.
3) Go through all the wiring.
Lots of people ask, "Show me the way" to do wiring, but it's never easy. This is a simple thing for me. I usually always gut the interior and while I'm at it (WIAI™) I pull all the wiring from the car (there really isn't that much in a Falcon) and make sure all the connectors are cleaned and polished and any nicks and cuts are mended. I then add any of my new accessories to the plan and wire these in. Generally I make a custom Ford Looking wire harness these days for each thing I add. As I work to pull apart my wagon, I see how much better at this I've gotten. I've had it since '97 and I've come a long way since then.
4) Carpet
I'll give you money, and you, and you too! That's how these cars go. The carpet is all there, and if I can clean it and reuse it I will, otherwise it will be replaced.
5) Freddie is getting a V8 steering/suspension system.
Because Freddie has 6 cylinder steering and is needing a complete rebuild (it tosses you about with every wind of change), if I'm going to throw money at it I am going to update it to all V8 stuff. Far better and more readily available. Whether I put in the power steering stuff I have, or not, I don't know. I've got to pull all of that out of the shed and look at it. It's all stock '65 stuff, but have never been a fan of it. I also have '65 Mustang disc-brake spindles (ebay) and a new 8" rear-end coming (thank's to Larry Smith). So, the collection of parts has started.
6) #5 requires new wheels and tires.
If I can find some 14" 5-lug wheels, I will reuse the tires. If they are not around I will sell off the rims and tires and hub caps - all are very nice - and do something different. A penny for your thoughts on the direction I should go here.
7) Weatherstripping is all needing to be replaced.
Part and parcel to the Dynamat is to replace all the weatherstripping and window tracks. Some of this I may already have, but others I will need. I'll tell you what I must do when I get there and I don't know when it will be.
8) Seat cushion foams.
The car has buckets and not a bench seat, so all the "All I wanna be is by your side" she might be saying, there will always be this console between us. The seats, though, are shot and I sink to the floor almost. Gary said foam wasn't available when he recovered these, so now it is. I have all the burlap and can fix springs as needed. This will all happen while I'm working on the Dynamat and carpet.
9) Stereo
Because I am pulling my stereo from my wagon, which was very nice, I will put all of this into the car. 1500 watts of pure jumping jack flash!
10) Griot's the paint.
The paint's not too bad for a Maaco paint job. I think with some 2000-grit and Griot's polisher this thing is going to Shine On!

So that's the initial list. More to come when it's put into the garage, but man it's no wonder I've got all these lines on my face.

__________________
Roger Moore

63 "Flarechero"
powered by: '65 289-V8 | T5 | 8" TracLoc rear
63.5 Hardtop (previously MacDee's "Freddie")
powered by: Classic Inlines 200-6 | C4 | 7.25 rear



Last edited by Luva65wagon; 02-02-2017 at 10:20 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-01-2017, 05:34 PM
SmithKid's Avatar
SmithKid SmithKid is offline
Paid Chapter Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Everett
Posts: 898
So now WIAI has become WIAI™?!? How did that process go? Do I need permission from you to use it?
__________________


Gene Smith
Everett, WA
'65 Ranchero Deluxe
302, 4-Spd
Granada Discs
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-01-2017, 05:51 PM
Luva65wagon's Avatar
Luva65wagon Luva65wagon is offline
Chapter President
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Lynnwood
Posts: 4,265
Blog Entries: 4
I need to make some money to pay for all this, so now if anyone does something else while they're at it, I'll get paid a royalty.

One can wish, anyway.
__________________
Roger Moore

63 "Flarechero"
powered by: '65 289-V8 | T5 | 8" TracLoc rear
63.5 Hardtop (previously MacDee's "Freddie")
powered by: Classic Inlines 200-6 | C4 | 7.25 rear


Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-02-2017, 10:52 AM
Luva65wagon's Avatar
Luva65wagon Luva65wagon is offline
Chapter President
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Lynnwood
Posts: 4,265
Blog Entries: 4
Thank you Larry!

Larry Smith (BadBird) came by yesterday and delivered the 8" rear-end I will be putting into Freddie. It needs back brakes, and after poking around for people selling backing plates, etc., I think the best fix may be a disc brake swap, which is pretty reasonable. Too early to buy anything, but I may go this direction. The issue (looking forward) may be lack of power brakes, so will be looking at that. Doghows is the only one I know to have used a small booster, but if I opt to convert this to a T5 (and I just might) the space it tight on the firewall.

Oh my gosh the WIAI™ on this car may be YUGE!
__________________
Roger Moore

63 "Flarechero"
powered by: '65 289-V8 | T5 | 8" TracLoc rear
63.5 Hardtop (previously MacDee's "Freddie")
powered by: Classic Inlines 200-6 | C4 | 7.25 rear


Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-02-2017, 11:34 AM
SmithKid's Avatar
SmithKid SmithKid is offline
Paid Chapter Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Everett
Posts: 898
Have you decided on the fee for the use of your trademark? This could get costly if I don't keep tight control of my mouth!
__________________


Gene Smith
Everett, WA
'65 Ranchero Deluxe
302, 4-Spd
Granada Discs
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 02-02-2017, 12:43 PM
MacDee's Avatar
MacDee MacDee is offline
Paid Chapter Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Woodinville, WA
Posts: 443
Blog Entries: 8
Numbers 5, 7 and 8 were on my To-Do list until the desire evaporated.
Be careful with number 10; there is NO clear-coat!
I sure hope you find that vacuum leak. I tried for several years before I gave up....
Number 6: I absolutely LOVE the aesthetics of the factory wire-wheel covers with the whitewalls on the hardtop. I went to some lengths to retain that appearance when we did the front disc conversion. Those are '63 Galaxie wheel covers on her now with the original Falcon centers adapted on. That said, she's yours now. Do what you think best!

She.. uh... he has apparently changed gender since changing hands as well. Maybe that's why he was so angry with me!
__________________
Gary MacDonald
ROGER's...
'63 Hardtop
Scarebird front discs
200 w/ CI alum head
C4
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 02-02-2017, 01:19 PM
doghows's Avatar
doghows doghows is offline
Senior Forum User
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Sequim
Posts: 2,113
Roger I think I might have a full set or at least two wheels that I believe to be 14" five lug. They were the rollers when I was building the delivery. I'll check tonight at home. If I do I'll knock the crappy tires off and see about getting them coated. I know a guy whose getting a lot better at it than when we did your red ones!
Let me know if you do a tech day and I'll try to make it over. Let me know if your looking for anything else and I'll check the junk errhh spare parts pile.
Let the WIAI begin!
__________________
63 Sedan Delivery
5.0 HO EFI AOD 8" rear

Last edited by doghows; 02-02-2017 at 01:21 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 02-02-2017, 02:44 PM
Luva65wagon's Avatar
Luva65wagon Luva65wagon is offline
Chapter President
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Lynnwood
Posts: 4,265
Blog Entries: 4
Quote:
Originally Posted by MacDee View Post
Numbers 5, 7 and 8 were on my To-Do list until the desire evaporated.
I hope I get them done before my funds evaporate.
Quote:
Originally Posted by MacDee View Post
Be careful with number 10; there is NO clear-coat!
I sure hope you find that vacuum leak. I tried for several years before I gave up....
Me too - assuming that is it. I won't give up until I do... give up.
Quote:
Originally Posted by MacDee View Post
Number 6: I absolutely LOVE the aesthetics of the factory wire-wheel covers with the whitewalls on the hardtop. I went to some lengths to retain that appearance when we did the front disc conversion. Those are '63 Galaxie wheel covers on her now with the original Falcon centers adapted on. That said, she's yours now. Do what you think best!
I remember that and if Steve has the 14" rims he said he had, and these fit, I hope to keep them. With V8 discs I may get forced to 15" wheels though, and if so I'm sure some Falcon owner out there will love and enjoy them.
Quote:
Originally Posted by MacDee View Post
She.. uh... he has apparently changed gender since changing hands as well. Maybe that's why he was so angry with me!
Freddie is a GIRL! Aahh! Maybe that's why it ended in ie. Never knew a girl named Freddie.
__________________
Roger Moore

63 "Flarechero"
powered by: '65 289-V8 | T5 | 8" TracLoc rear
63.5 Hardtop (previously MacDee's "Freddie")
powered by: Classic Inlines 200-6 | C4 | 7.25 rear


Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 02-02-2017, 03:02 PM
Luva65wagon's Avatar
Luva65wagon Luva65wagon is offline
Chapter President
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Lynnwood
Posts: 4,265
Blog Entries: 4
Quote:
Originally Posted by doghows View Post
Roger I think I might have a full set or at least two wheels that I believe to be 14" five lug. They were the rollers when I was building the delivery. I'll check tonight at home. If I do I'll knock the crappy tires off and see about getting them coated. I know a guy whose getting a lot better at it than when we did your red ones!
Let me know if you do a tech day and I'll try to make it over. Let me know if your looking for anything else and I'll check the junk errhh spare parts pile.
Let the WIAI begin!
I'm not sure I can use 14's if I go disc brake on all 4's. I'm sure you've learned a lot,

I am looking for lots of parts and would do drum brakes if I could find V8 backing plates for the rear. I'd probably pay the same amount to go that way as to go disc.

Gotta start doing my own searching through my jun... uh, I mean parts. We all should look in our piles and list what we have others might need to barter with.
__________________
Roger Moore

63 "Flarechero"
powered by: '65 289-V8 | T5 | 8" TracLoc rear
63.5 Hardtop (previously MacDee's "Freddie")
powered by: Classic Inlines 200-6 | C4 | 7.25 rear


Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 02-02-2017, 03:38 PM
MacDee's Avatar
MacDee MacDee is offline
Paid Chapter Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Woodinville, WA
Posts: 443
Blog Entries: 8
Quote:
Originally Posted by Luva65wagon View Post
Freddie is a GIRL! Aahh! Maybe that's why it ended in ie. Never knew a girl named Freddie.
I did a show at a Retirement Center in Woodinville a couple of years ago, and the Marketing Director there was a lovely woman named... Freddie! Apparently was named after her father. He passed away before she was born and her mother had decided to honor him by naming the unborn child after him no matter what gender!
__________________
Gary MacDonald
ROGER's...
'63 Hardtop
Scarebird front discs
200 w/ CI alum head
C4

Last edited by MacDee; 02-02-2017 at 03:52 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 02-02-2017, 04:11 PM
Luva65wagon's Avatar
Luva65wagon Luva65wagon is offline
Chapter President
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Lynnwood
Posts: 4,265
Blog Entries: 4
We don't wanna have-ta deal with no transgendering here. Freddie can remain a girl. I'm an equal opportunity owner, so 'she' will be given the same treatment no matter what.
__________________
Roger Moore

63 "Flarechero"
powered by: '65 289-V8 | T5 | 8" TracLoc rear
63.5 Hardtop (previously MacDee's "Freddie")
powered by: Classic Inlines 200-6 | C4 | 7.25 rear


Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 02-02-2017, 08:33 PM
doghows's Avatar
doghows doghows is offline
Senior Forum User
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Sequim
Posts: 2,113
Well I dug through my jun errhh parts pile and I found 3 of those rims??? I have no clue where the fourth one went but I'll look more when I get home before dark.
They're yours if you want them. Hopefully the fourth is close by and I can supply a set. I'll keep you posted.
__________________
63 Sedan Delivery
5.0 HO EFI AOD 8" rear
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 02-02-2017, 10:17 PM
Luva65wagon's Avatar
Luva65wagon Luva65wagon is offline
Chapter President
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Lynnwood
Posts: 4,265
Blog Entries: 4
Hold onto them Steve and we'll measure stuff to see what fits in what. Maybe I'll need inside measurements on those too.

Three-wheeler Falcon? Hmm...
__________________
Roger Moore

63 "Flarechero"
powered by: '65 289-V8 | T5 | 8" TracLoc rear
63.5 Hardtop (previously MacDee's "Freddie")
powered by: Classic Inlines 200-6 | C4 | 7.25 rear


Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 02-02-2017, 10:19 PM
doghows's Avatar
doghows doghows is offline
Senior Forum User
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Sequim
Posts: 2,113
You got it. I'll keep looking for number four!?!
__________________
63 Sedan Delivery
5.0 HO EFI AOD 8" rear
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 02-17-2017, 11:19 PM
Luva65wagon's Avatar
Luva65wagon Luva65wagon is offline
Chapter President
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Lynnwood
Posts: 4,265
Blog Entries: 4
Freddie's prognosis

Lots of progress on Freddie since the site went down and came back. So lots to update here. After playing musical cars, which was fun...

2017-02-11 14.52.23.jpg

I got Freddie safely into the garage after finishing up with my depersonalizing the wagon so I can get it listed elsewhere...

freddie_garage.jpg

I then set out to look into what's up with "her" and her drivability/running issues. After not too much hunting I believe I narrowed it down to flooding. Though I've not looked into the carburetor much, it is pretty evident the car is loading up with fuel.

fuel_loading1.jpg

fuel_loading2.jpg

I also noticed the Classic Inlines intake on this, unlike most intakes having the carb base leveled out relative to the motor, was the same as the motor...

carb_level.jpg

To address this I picked up a base wedge to get the carburetor back to level. Hopefully this will allow the carburetor float levels to be set correctly, which may help. The plan is to rebuild the carburetor too just to satisfy my mind on that...

carb_level2.jpg.

I then moved onto a pretty significant dismantling of Freddie; beginning with all the wiring forward of the front seats... including some unnecessary bits I found up under the dash as well as all the dssh wiring...

wireless.jpg

I also pulled all the wiring from the engine compartment and will be making a new harness based upon the parts going back into it...

wireless2.jpg

While poking around after pulling the intake I did notice some signs of leakage around the freeze plugs and a few of the other fittings (plumbed with Teflon tape - mostly evil stuff in my opinion), so out came the headers and I have a set of brass freeze plugs coming and will remove all the fittings too and seal it all up to my liking.

leaks.jpg

I will be repainting the motor black, which is my preferred look. This will make the other cooler items, like the aluminum head and manifold, stand out. Plus it stays cleaner 'looking' longer. Moving the battery to the trunk too - to really show off the motor better.

Nope, not quite done yet...

I then gutted the interior of just about everything in preparation for some floor repairs (thankfully not too bad) and a full Dynamat treatment - under the dash to the trunk. The car will be dead silent after this. Have a new firewall pad and a 2-speed wiper system going in as well as renewing heater. I thought it had been done, but I saw antifreeze in it when I pulled it, so WIAI...

gutted1.jpg

More to come...
__________________
Roger Moore

63 "Flarechero"
powered by: '65 289-V8 | T5 | 8" TracLoc rear
63.5 Hardtop (previously MacDee's "Freddie")
powered by: Classic Inlines 200-6 | C4 | 7.25 rear



Last edited by Luva65wagon; 02-18-2017 at 09:52 AM.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:42 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.