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  1. #736
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    The shiny one is brand new fresh out of the box NOS grill and headlight buckets.
    They were a gift to me from a good friend!
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  2. #737
    No brain'er then. I'd say you have a very good friend.
    Roger Moore

    63 "Flarechero"
    powered by: 347ci stroker | Tremec T5 | 8" 3:45 TracLoc rear



  3. #738
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    Hmmmm..... I think I'd Like to get to know your friend.


    Gene Smith
    Fredrickson, WA
    '65 Ranchero Deluxe
    302, EFI, 4-Spd
    Granada Discs

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    Reconstruction has begun.

    This brings up some issues that I worked through on my Falcon. I originally was going to send my grill out to get it bright dip anodized. But, the cost of over $1100 with shipping was ridiculous.

    I removed all the old anodizing with oven cleaner, fixed all the little dents and then sanded all the way to 3000 grit. Polished it on my buffing wheel, which is very hard on a 64 grill. It tries to catch and bend the aluminum.
    Then I coated it with a material that Boeing invented to hold the polish. It looked okay, but not the way I wanted.
    I finally took the grill to Tucson and had it chrome plated for $200 and since I couldn't get black paint to stick on the chrome I used vinyl decal material. It is holding up very well but the draw back on chrome is it won't take a dent. The chrome will chip off. Hasn't happened yet, but if it does, it will just go back to Tucson.
    So my vote is for the NOS bling. Looks great and everyone needs friends like that.
    Larry Smith
    1964 Futura
    347 stroker



  5. #740
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    Well I'll let the cat out of the bag. It was a gift from one of our members here. Gina K. Was the good friend that hooked me up with the grill. She said the same thing that the delivery deserved the chrome. Needless to say I was tickled to death as I had been looking for a good grill for a few years now.
    I think the car looks awesome and can't wait for the show season to start up again. I do have a few small things to do but at least now I'm shiny!!
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  6. #741
    Steve -

    Trying to help a new user (off forum) with a safe-n-sane build for his daughter. Can you post information about where the brake booster came from?

    Also, still patiently awaiting a reply to the yesterday morning PM.

    Thanks-
    Roger Moore

    63 "Flarechero"
    powered by: 347ci stroker | Tremec T5 | 8" 3:45 TracLoc rear



  7. #742
    Nevermind on the booster info. Re-read the thread and saw ABS Brake. But still need the other answer...
    Roger Moore

    63 "Flarechero"
    powered by: 347ci stroker | Tremec T5 | 8" 3:45 TracLoc rear



  8. #743
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    Quick update for y'all. I finally worked through my drivability issue. The one that I thought was my car bouncing off the rev limiter at about 4300 rpm. It turns out there is a wire at the number three prom on the computer that requires start/crank voltage only. I was getting voltage in the run position as well. Apparently this wire is to retard the timing when cranking it to make for an easier start. A quick reroute of the power supply to this wire for correct voltage only at the crank /start cycle and BAM I can now turn 6250 rpm like the computer is set for. Not only that with the wire corrected my timing is also corrected and she is quick. Amazing what a few degrees of timing can do.
    Now if I can just get my steering fixed?
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  9. #744
    I meant to reply to this before and forgot to. Glad to hear it's running right now. Almost wanna go for a ride in it.



    The Ford DuraSpark II setup has this same crank-mode timing change setup, and clearly having that on all the time would be no good. Especially when a computer was controlling everything else.

    I read somewhere - I wish I knew where - about power steering racks and how they needed a restriction in the pressure-side to keep the rack from being over-sensitive to movement. A quick Google turned up a lot of hits. Here's one site's post:

    The over boosted feeling can happen when you adapt a system using a pump from say a steering box system. It has a different base line pressure; the base line pressure is a minimum pressure where steering response of the torsion bar / spool valve combination starts to assist. Passenger car steering systems range from approximately 30 – 200 psi base line pressure depending on if it is a steering box or rack & pinion pump / valve combination. If you have an over sensitive, twitchy feel here is what you can do to determine one possible solution.
    • With the car running, brake set, tires clear of curbs or obstructions and the engine at its normal idle with the steering wheel centered, turn the wheel to the stop one way.
    • You should notice some feel or resistance just as you begin to turn.
    • As you continue to turn you should feel progressively increasing resistance until you hit the stop.
    If this is not the case you may have too high of a baseline pressure. SpeedDirect offers a kit for GM pumps that will allow adjustment of the bypass pressure.

    Another site:

    What is Power Steering Pump Pressure & Flow?
    The principle of power steering pressure and flow is that it must match the steering system you have. Any old power steering pump will not necessarily work with your steering system. A Rack & Pinion requires a lower pressure, lower flow pump, as opposed to power steering boxes, which require a higher pressure, higher flow pump. A typical problem is that one experiences over-steer, or super sensitive steering with a power rack & pinion. The rack and pinion is not bad, it is the pump, there is too much pressure and flow. Pressure reducing valves are not an effective way to fix the pump, these valves do not reduce the flow at all. A different pump is required, keeping in mind most pumps look exactly alike but there are many different internal configurations even with in the same model such as with the GM Type II pump.

    EPS?

    I posted something elsewhere about EPS (Electric Power Steering) which I'm seriously considering for the Ranchero. I have most of the bits having pulled it all for testing to see if I can fit it into the '69 Mustang. It would have been tight, but the Falcon (or an earlier Mustang) has more room for it.
    Roger Moore

    63 "Flarechero"
    powered by: 347ci stroker | Tremec T5 | 8" 3:45 TracLoc rear



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    The rack and pinion kit is an all new kit from unisteer. The pump is suppose to be set at the proper flow for the rack. At least that is what i was told.
    My issue is the wandering, it all started when I came over for the meeting last year and hit some bad roads that bent some components. Those have been replaced and I'm on the right track to having it fixed. I'm having trouble getting some coils. I want a heavier spring rate linear coil. Global west has what I want but they have been on back order since November. I'm tired of waiting so I think I'm going to order a set from NPD. They are for a 65 mustang but look like what I want. Once those are in then the UCA drop and finally the adjustable strut bars. Then off for a performance alignment. I got the spec from car daze.
    If that works I'm a happy camper because right now she'll burn that one tire off through two gears.
    Now if anyone has a line on a 3:73 posi for an 8" let me know.
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  11. #746
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    Reconstruction has begun.

    That was a very informative write up on the power steering issues. Thanks Roger, I believe that is exactly why my rack and pinion are so sensitive. Move the steering wheel a 1/4 inch and it changes lanes. Maybe not quite that bad, but it is challenging. Now I will start looking for some way to fix it.
    It isn't a huge deal but last year I got on the car very hard going to play golf and had to use both lanes of the road to keep it straight. So, needless to say, I am concerned about drag racing at full speed.
    Larry Smith
    1964 Futura
    347 stroker



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    Ok final update on the engine performance. Took a break at lunch today and re-set my timing. At idle with the prom chip out I was running 22* OUCH. Now re-set to 10* BTDC. HOLY CRAP she is sweet.
    So recap fixed computer wiring issue and she'll turn 6250 rpm.
    Re-set timing to correct spec and she's a screamer. I'll have to do a 0-60 and maybe an 1/8 mile time.
    It's amazing how much difference an engine can run with some simple timing changes. Thanks for all your help and tip with this.
    I'll keep yall updated on the front suspension. I'll start that this weekend.
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  13. #748
    Here are the springs I run. Just trim to get the ride height you want. The GT springs are great.

    http://www.cjponyparts.com/coil-spri...1966/p/CS8531/

    As for alignment. These are the specs I'm using. Also has worked out great.
    http://www.opentrackerracingproducts.com/tech/

    I'm also using roller springs perches, roller UCA, and Global West strut rods.
    Patrick Brown
    331 Stroker / T5 / 8" / Wilwood Disks / RRS R&P Steering / Megasquirt EFI


  14. #749
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    You read my mind Patrick those are the exact springs I just ordered. I've printed the alignment sheet but that was the specs I got from car daze.
    That cool looks like im on the right track. Thanks for the confirmation it's good to know that they work.
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    UCA drop done. Not to hard after the springs are out. Had to dimple the inner just a touch to clear the grease zert. Ready to reassemble as soon as the coils get here.
    If anyone wants to do this modification I have the template and correct size drill bit. Open to any paid club members.
    (Membership has its privileges)
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