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Old 05-28-2017, 01:07 AM
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Freddie comes alive!

Roger, this is going to sound bad, but at least it is happening to someone who can fix this mess. I would have given up with all the problems you are having. Maybe Freddie Krueger is the right name. Larry
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Old 05-28-2017, 11:23 AM
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Roger, glad to see a post from you. I read a news report this week that Roger Moore had died. Glad it was just Fake News. Welcome back!

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Old 05-28-2017, 02:57 PM
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Could it be possible there is/was another "Roger Moore"? Nah! Musta been an imitation!
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Old 05-28-2017, 10:24 PM
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Roger Moore RIP

I got a very odd text from Lila's B-I-L, Dennis, on Wednesday saying "Sorry to here about your demise" and I was like, "What?" What the heck did he mean by that. What did I do? And then 15 minutes of waiting for him to tell me. Meanwhile I recalled memories of a text I received from a friend of Lila's right after we started dating, I was in Hawaii for work (3 hours behind over there) and I get this at 3 in the morning, waking me up, saying "They know what you did. I'm so sorry." And when asked what she meant, she said "You know what you did" with no further reply. I was freaked out, not knowing what the heck she meant so I had to call Lila at 6 in the morning, waking her up, to figure it out. Stupid game. Suffice it to say that friend got a side of me I don't expose often.

But yeah, sad to here of the other Roger Moore's passing. I remember my first "connection" to him when I was about 10 and it has been nearly nonstop since.

As for the car that shall not be named, I expected most of it. It's just... when will it be satisfied? What sacrifice will satisfy its thirst?

Oh great car that shall not be named. How may I do your bidding?
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Old 05-29-2017, 06:43 AM
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Even got a new cap and rotor and stator for the distributor. Then I got a wild hair and thought maybe the coil was bad. I had a couple of those square mid-80's coils and set one up temporarily - and VROOM!
Well, gee.

I had to look up a picture of a "stator" to see what you were talking about.

Stator_Removal_diagram.jpg

The stator is a mounting plate. How can one wear out?

You also made me wonder about coils. Do they go bad gradually, or all at once? I looked up "when to replace an ignition coil" and found the following"

"The ignition coil on your car is supposed to last around 100,000 miles or more. The following are some of the warning signs that you will notice when it is time to get a new ignition coil:

The car will not start
The engine is misfiring on a regular basis
The Check Engine Light is on"
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Old 05-29-2017, 05:05 PM
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Dennis,

The stator ie a rare item to fail, and it hadn't, but got the least expensive parts to begin with. Was more odd the way it behaved with the new one. It's similar to a magneto, so they usually fail when a winding of wire in it goes open, or shorts out. The stator is used as a inductive trigger for the STI ignition box Gary installed.

A coil is a similar thing to how a stator is made, but with two sets of wire windings in one package isolated from each other and one side gets a charge and when the field collapses it does so to the other winding, which like a transformer - amplifies the voltage a lot; like, 12 volts (or 9 volts) amplified to 45,000 volts. Some coils can handle a full 12 volts and some must be used with a ballast resistor (drop voltage from 12 to 9). As I learned, this CDI (capacitive discharge induction) ignition works with most any coil. Or so they say.

A coil fails when it gets too hot usually and the normally insulated wire fuses together and shorts out. Shorts in any wiring ends its life. Coils are often oil filled too to help it stay cool.
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Old 05-30-2017, 12:37 PM
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Coils are often oil filled too to help it stay cool.
Apparently some are also filled with soup...
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Old 06-09-2017, 10:43 PM
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Well, here I am...

...back where I started.

I reinstalled the 4 barrel today after trying two different 2 barrel carbs. I believe both were a bit too big, considering the 4 barrel is 195 cfm primary and either of the 2 barrel's would be 350 cfm, maybe more. A good explanation of this, if you're interested, is here:

http://www.badasscars.com/index.cfm/...rod/prd440.htm

Before putting the 4 barrel back on I opened it up and, using a note Gary wrote a few posts back, removed the idle-bleed screws Patrick added, drilled a pair the next size smaller, and put the power valve in the carb came with. This should have theoretically put the carb back to its original specs. After a lot of tweaks I have the car running reasonably well. Have not driven it, and have run it for maybe 20 minutes without the behavior I had when the 4 barrel was on last week (runs, but then dies like running out of gas). But (yep, I have a but) I'm still a bit derailed over something.

Going through the conversations Gary passed on to me, the engine builder was asked to degree the cam to the Clay Smith specs. Gary had supplied an adjustable timing gear setup of some sort (no evidence I have of what it was), but the builder indicated that it was unusable for some reason. The note goes on to say the builder had troubles degree'ing the cam due to, they said, the cam having the dowel pin alignment hole drilled in the wrong spot. This caused them to move the cam gear one tooth to degree it to spec.

For reference, this is the (second) cam Gary bought:

http://www.claysmithcams.com/ford-14...-good-economy/

It runs good with the performance timing, but what a pain figgering out what others did.
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Roger -

I finished reading through this on my break today (began a few nights ago), well done on your efforts. As a compliment, you have inspired me to fix some carb related items on my van as well as one of my motorcycles. In case you need any Holley parts I have a couple parts cases of them (jets, gaskets, o-rings, float, valves, secondary springs, crush washers, etc...).

Early on after my engine swap with the 4bbl Holley I had a symptom where suddenly the engine would barely stay running, but it wasn't consistent. I found that the secondary float had a hole in it and kept the needle valve open dumping fuel down the intake from the overflow tube. That carb was a "rebuilt" when I bought it so I assumed it was fine and kept looking elsewhere. What does Jeff W say about assumptions....

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What does Jeff W say about assumptions...
Jeff has sayings?

Thanks Brian, no doubt it will get figured out. Have been otherwise preoccupied and have not yet called Clay Smith, or been out there to start it again to see if it is still on its meds, but I suspect I'll be told I need to degree it myself rather than speculate what other mechanics did. And seeing already what other mechanics did, I think it is probably suspect work anyway. All I can think about is, "Great, I need to take things apart again..." But I really need to move onto other things as well, so it's a rock/and/hard place.

As for the Holley parts, I have a box of parts from Patrick, which I used a bit of them to make new idle bleed screws. So I think I've got that covered for now.
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Old 06-15-2017, 03:53 PM
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Jeff has sayings?
I was at the Amazon brick and mortor store in the U village today. In the new release section they had a book my kids would have written: "Sh*t my Dad Says".
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Today the car finally came out of the garage to play.

out_to_play.jpg

Have been waiting for a decent day where Gene could come and tag along behind me and tow it if it gave up the ghost. It didn't; in fact it did surprisingly well. No real hiccups and it pulled a couple hills OK. Didn't do much more than drive around the neighborhood (~5 miles worth) and see what noises might appear, how well I adjusted the steering wheel center, etc. Seems I found a rattle in the rear view mirror, which you hear in this video. Otherwise, other than still needing tailpipes, though it is pretty quiet as you can tell in the video, I think I can let it, and perhaps this thread, rest. I started polishing on it to get rid of a lot of pollution on the car, but I think the best I'll do is to make a 20 footer into a 18 footer.

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I started polishing on it to get rid of a lot of pollution on the car, but I think the best I'll do is to make a 20 footer into a 18 footer.
I was very surprised to see this car had no clear coat on it. I thought it was supposed to be a base-coat/clear-coat system, but if it was, the clear-coat was air thick. As such I set out and did a lot of wet-sanding on it. Then cut and polished, and then waxed on it. Mostly all up-facing surfaces so far. It is a good 15 footer now!



Not that these pictures say much, other than you can see reflections you usta-could-not see.

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I was very surprised to see this car had no clear coat on it.
Um... I believe I stated in an earlier post that it did NOT have clear coat.

It is amazing to see what you've done with her!
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Um... I believe I stated in an earlier post that it did NOT have clear coat.
Why yes you did. Great, I can sand it even more then!

Everyone should be happy to know that Gary and Debra came by today and had a look-see and we went for a little drive. I think it was helpful to them, and me, to close this loop for them.

I haven't announced this until now, but I've decided to put the car up for sale. Sort of kind'a decided a month after getting it. Far too many things changing, so need to liquidate a bit. Some folks were coming by today, who saw the wagon at the swap meet, but found out through someone who didn't buy the wagon that Fe@@!* was for sale, and so I contacted Gary last night and told him his chance was now. The guy who came by, with his girlfriend and his father who is a long-time mechanic (who was pretty impressed with all my work - or at least said so), is thinking on it for a couple days, but will let me know on Monday, maybe. We'll see. His Girlfriend was eyeing my Seahawks scooter too, so I guess I better get that finished.

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