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    63 Convertible Project [take 1]

    Hi-
    I met a number of people at a gathering in Golden Gardens back in 2006. At that time I had just purchased a 63 convertible with hopes of quickly restoring it. Well now, seven years later, I am finally at a place where I can start moving forward with this project.

    I spent sometime reading different threads this afternoon, but would still welcome the opportunity to hear from others, as there might be new experiences, new shops, and new ideas.

    Please keep in mind that the end result is NOT a show car, but a car for family fun. I'd like the result to be clean and professional, but am not looking for perfection.

    1) Windshield: can anyone recommend a local vendor for both the purchase of and installation of a windshield for my 1963 Futura Convertible?

    2) Chrome: I am thinking of Art Brass Plating for my two bumpers and three interior windshield pieces. Are there any other places I might want to call, especially around the three smaller pieces?

    3) Bodywork: I am thinking of Elliot (Elhot Metal Fabrication), but would welcome another shop that isn't quite as expensive. Can anyone recommend another shop?

    4) Paint: I have read that Fenders & Fins does exceptional work, but (again) would welcome another shop that does great work on older cars for a fair price.

    Thank you for any advice you can pass along, and
    I will be sharing pictures (and experiences) as the Futura transitions from project car to neighborhood classic.
    -Lawrence

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    Lawence,

    I will not begin to be able to suggest to you where to go, since I tend to do all my own work on all these things. But I will say most of these places you suggest will probably want to do, and charge for, show quality work.

    For instance, just about every swap meet I go to have bumper rechromers all with front and rear Falcon bumpers - for about $250 exchange. You will be hard-pressed to get a single bumper done for $500 at Art Brass. Some things, like your interior chrome-work will have to go to someone, but for a driver you might consider just doing something on your own to be unique.

    Windshield glass you can still usually get locally from most glass shops without paying the high shipping costs when buying them from a catalog vendor. These are all rubber imbedded, so they go in pretty easily when you have a couple guys around to help. As a tech day we've done a few as a club already.

    How much bodywork is there to do? Any clue? Most body shops who'll touch an older car will be able to do any rust repair and paint as well. But I don't know whether they have a "driver quality" versus "show quality" level of work and service.

    Just as an example, I needed to have a couple fenders painted for my wagon. I had already decided to locate a couple and have them done rather than to hassle with having my car apart for an extended period of time. I was also working on a big project at work and didn't have the time to do it myself (as I had for the tailgate and other vehicles I'd done before) - so I took it to a street-rod shop in the Lynnwood area and had them fill the holes and paint them for me. 2 fenders... $2800. But at their $89 an hour shop time that's only 15 hours per fender. I could have easily spent the same amount of time on them, maybe more, filling holes, rusted out parts, prepping, priming, sanding, painting. Even still there were things I would have done they didn't do.

    Anyway, just a few cents worth of opinion. It may be worth only that much, but it was free today.
    Last edited by Luva65wagon; May 28th, 2013 at 12:59 PM.
    Roger Moore

    63 "Flarechero"
    powered by: 347ci stroker | Tremec T5 | 8" 3:45 TracLoc rear



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    Hi Roger-
    Thank you for your thoughtful reply.

    The bumpers are two of the last items that will actually be needed to finish the project, so I really appreciate the tip around swap meets. I am planning to do a careful cataloging of the car in the coming days (a father / son project), so that will give us a list of things to look for at swap meets - front and rear bumpers will top the list!

    I am also glad to hear that windshields are still available locally. I was looking at them online and, yes, the transportation charges really added up.

    I realize that it becomes hard balancing the cost of restoring a vehicle verses making one presentable. The car probably has bodywork that is beyond Maaco, and I probably want work with a little more polish than they may offer…especially as the exterior color will change from white to red (Ballard High School colors: RED and BLACK – the only way to reach consensus among three kids).

    I do not, presently, have access to photos of the rear 1/4 panels (that is where most of the bodywork is required), but I can post some later tonight. There are also smaller projects, like holes to fill, etc. I wish I could do more of the work myself. So with that in mind, I will research (YouTube, etc.) – and, perhaps, find a couple of projects I can tackle together with my kids.

    The car is not going to be completed overnight, so I remain open to hearing suggestions around possible body / paint shops.

    -Lawrence

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    I looked up where I went before and the place is called Street Rod Visions in Lynnwood. Nice guy that runs the shop. He even came out to my place one evening and had a look at what I was doing at the time in my garage... almost offered me a job.
    Roger Moore

    63 "Flarechero"
    powered by: 347ci stroker | Tremec T5 | 8" 3:45 TracLoc rear



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    Roger, thank you for passing along the name of the shop in Lynnwood. I tried to open up their web-page, but my browser stopped me. I will try again later from another computer, and see if I get the same results.

    Anyway, as promised, below are some images of the rear 1/4 panels, which, in addition to the front driver side floor panel, require the most attention.

    Kindly let me know if there are any issues with the images, and
    Thank you for taking a look.
    -Lawrence
    Attached Images Attached Images
    Lawrence Leake
    1963 Futura
    Queen Anne, Seattle
    >>Rangoon Red w/ White top & Black interior (in the works)


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    Yes - I see the web site error here on my browser. I opened it yesterday on my phone and didn't see the error, but it is probably a warning because there seemed to be some interactive viewer thing on their site home page. I might have to contact them and suggest they might want to know that they won't get much site traffic if everyone is afraid they'll get hacked if they continue.



    That's pretty typical rot on a convertible. Floors rot too on any Falcon, but floor rot usually begins from above in the dash cowl or due to a leaking windshield seal. You might want to lay on your back and look up at the sheet metal under your dash - with a bright light shining down into the vent-work from outside. You should not see any light except from inside the DS vent door and the PS heater coupling (which has probably long-since rotted away).

    There is no access to the cowl through the vent-work and the drains, which are under the fenders, get clogged easily and let crud build up and rust the cowl. Even if you don't see light, that doesn't mean that if you don't clean out the crud, you won't expose the holes.

    Fortunately repair panels are available for the floor and the quarters. I see them from most Falcon vendors and on ebay. Doing this sort of patch is pretty simple, but it's still hours of cha-ching at a body shop. It might be time to invest into a small MIG welder and learn how to weld - assuming you don't know how to already. So handy and so easy to learn. Floor pans are not seen, so would be a good place to learn the patching process. You can look at my Ranchero thread and see all kinds of shots of rot being cut-out and panels installed.

    The cowl, if rusted - is not a fun job. Or easy. If my Ranchero rust had been simple pin-holes, I'd have just opened the ends of the cowl (where you can't see them under the fenders) and fiberglassed it or something. But mine (if you look) were way beyond that.

    Anyway, all part of the "joy."

    Link to my Ranchero thread. Just about every imaginable repair was done in this thread.

    http://www.rainierfalcons.com/forums...ead.php?t=1482
    Roger Moore

    63 "Flarechero"
    powered by: 347ci stroker | Tremec T5 | 8" 3:45 TracLoc rear



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