Hey gene how is the steering box coming? I got mine out without a lot of trouble, the manifold is off and only had to unhook the brake line, piece of cake, how much did they charge for the rebuild at red head?..jh
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Hey gene how is the steering box coming? I got mine out without a lot of trouble, the manifold is off and only had to unhook the brake line, piece of cake, how much did they charge for the rebuild at red head?..jh
Mine was easy to take out with no engine in the bay. I wanted it out to allow easier D & C in perep for painting, which is now mostly complete. Just have to paint some small parts that were removed for same reason, then do a bit of wire harness re-wrapping. Then i'll be ready to drop the new engine in as soon as my latest shipment of parts arrives. The reuild at Readhead cost a bit under $300 (hope it's worth it). I didn't know the condition of the replacement box, so felt it needed to be done.
Kinda feel like I should have named this thread "little at a time" as I seem to be able to go slow and Guy doesn't. However, I ave gotten some more painting done, the rebuilt PS steering box mounted, and the old linkage most ly out of the way. Why oh why did I waste the warm days of summer/fall? It's cold out there!
Since when is fishing wasting time? Would you rather be fishing in the cold? It's easier to warm a garage than it is a lake.
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You're doing a fine job over there - and still finding time to come help me too! On the 11th, we will crank up heat on this and get 'er dun. [thumb]
Smith kid, what part of Everett do you live in? I live in Marysville. Falcon 1
I live in S. Everett, a few blocks from the K-Mart.
Gene - I created a thread for your install party, but I'm confused on the actual date. So, please update the thread with anything I left out:
http://www.rainierfalcons.com/forums...=9956#post9956
Hmmmm... seems like part of this thread fell into the bit bucket......
It was COLD this morning with the garage door open, but, the 302 is in place and some of the detail work is done. Thanks to the crew that helped out today (Bill, Kenny, Roger and Denny). The engine went in with very little problem, with the trans attached and the headers loose so we could wiggle them around while lowering to the motor mounts. The driveshaft, e-brake, fuel pump, and carb are all in place. Some plumbing, linkages, and wiring just need to be done and it should be ready for first startup. I'm waiting for some front-end parts, then off to the alignment shop, and the muffler shop for some noise control
THANKS AGAIN for your help!:D
A few more shots! That engine looks really good in there. Glad we could get you a few steps closer to on the road Gene. Thanks for keeping us fed with the cookies, cider, and fried chicken for lunch!
The cable that I have would be more trouble than it's worth. I think you would be better off to fabricate one. That way you can use his peddle. It was nice to meet you guys.
Looks good guys. I would have much rather been there than pouring concrete?. One question however, did the "flarechero" make its first appearance?? I hope this spring that the "flarechero", the Genechero, and my 62 (still to be named) can show up together somewhere..
Anyway nice job, you all have earned a good defrosting![thumb]
I'm close, but no cigar. I hope to have its engine misbehavin's sorted out pretty soon. I need to run it for a while to do that and at the moment I'm focusing on getting it all water-tight and all the little doo-dads installed before I open up the garage. I need to update my "Crazy" thread soon.
I'm sure by spring we'll both be able to meet up with you somewhere. I, for one, will do all I can to help Gene meet that deadline.
Post pictures of your concrete pour. Those of us who have been there would like to see the change you made.
I'll pop those up in the chit chat.... Poured 6 yards Yeah Yeah!!! Also dropped off the chero at the tire store this am. Getting new shoes and an alignment. Found out it has front disk brakes too.. Go figure.
Anyway hope you get the bugs worked out and I hope Gene get's his bugs worked out as well.
Good job for all you guys that made it over to Genes. Gotta love a club that will freeze their b**ls off to help out a friend. Hope to make it over again soon. In the mean time more pics for those of us who didn't make it...:D
Thanks Denny for looking. Gene - I have a few cable-style accelerators I've collected over the summer and I found something last night in my pile that might just slide over that pedal shaft and clear the intake runner. I will drag it all over there and we'll get things hooked up... somehow. Hold off buying something from Lokar until we've had a chance to work on it more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Falcon1
We were so efficient - a well oiled machine - that day, we barely had time to take pictures. :ROTFLMAO:Quote:
Originally Posted by doghows
I'm not sure how many pics Kenny got, but I only got the two I already posted. I'll be posting a few more as I go, though.
Thanks for looking, Roger. I haven't ordered Lokar stuff yet (it's pretty pricy). Hopefully something can be "manufactured" to avoid that. I did get to ARP today and get the proper hardware on it's way for the manifolds and covers. Also, the brass that's needed for the manifold has been acquired. Still lot's of loose ends to tie up.
Steve, I admire your attecking the flatwork. This past summer I considered it and decided to have it done for me. I guess I'm feeling too old for that kind of labor. [BOW]
There are two kinds of set ups, I can't remember the other one. But be advised that the Loclear is designed for a new build, meaning the peddle bolts up from the fire wall in. I did it that way and boy what a pain. I bought mine at Nappa. If you don't fabricate one I would go to a Nappa store and compare the two.
Gene,
What Lokar stuff are you looking for? Here is a photo of what I had pre-EFI.
http://www.rainierfalcons.com/galler...le_Linkage.JPG
Does that intake manifold have the bossed cast in just behind the carb? I'll try to get a photo of what I ended up doing with my EFI setup. It used a stock cable style Ford pedal, a flat piece of steel bent 90 degrees, and a Lokar cable.
Patrick - this was your manifold, so what you had bolted to it, would still bolt to it.
Not speaking for Gene, exactly, but I don't think Gene wants to buy new Lokar stuff. He, or he and I, will have to rig up something that works. He's got a shaft coming out parallel to the firewall with a small double-D on the end of that wherewith a short arm with a ball on it come out perpendicular. That fed a bell-crank assembly to the original carb linkage. That arm is just a hair too long and hits an intake runner, so it's got to be modified into something. What, is the question. I have a bunch of cables and pedals, and something that looks like a kick-down that may bolt onto the double-D. Will have to just get over there and focus on it a while, me thinks.
The photo I added in my previous post is that manifold.
I would get a stock Ford cable pedal setup from the Pick-n-Pull and go from there. All the hard work is already done. Yi=ou just need to fab the lincage at the carb side. The C4 kickdown kit from Lokar is very good and I would recommend getting that one item. There are some Lokar knock-offs on eBay if money is a concern. I know Gene is on a fixed income ;).
Here are a couple shots of what I have now. I see that I need to tighten that cable nut before any more driving.
Notice the black bracket that the cable housing mounts to. That is just a 1/8" steel plate bent 90 degrees with some carefully placed holes. It bolts to some cast in bosses on the #8 intake runner. I don't remember if the manifold Gene has now has those bosses. One could just make a bracket that used the two rear carb studs instead.
http://www.rainierfalcons.com/galler..._linkage_2.JPG
http://www.rainierfalcons.com/galler..._linkage_1.JPG
Well.... I didn't get mine done/running for Christmas, but I'm so close I can almost taste it! Hopefully in the next week or two.
Merry Christmas to all!
Looking great Gene! Did you get the parts in time for the front end?
Yup. Didn't get 'em on yet with all the holiday doin's happening right now. I did get the replacement bolts and got them installed. Also got the last of the harnesses prepared, but not on. Pro'ly get back to it on Monday.
If you need a hand Gene...... let me know. Im FINALLY off of work. I will be free anytime after Tuesday
Still making progress, even though it's cold, and this is the FAMILY time of year. Roger has been here to help a couple of times and, being the "Rube Goldberg" kind of guy he is, has gotten my throttle linkage to work using much of the original hardware. Attached is a pic of the result. Very sanitary. Gonna get out there and brave the cold again today. Hope to attempt starting the engine REAL soon.
Have a SAFE and enjoyable New Years celebration!
thats great , you'll have it going in no time. If you to feel that you may need adult supervision give me a shout, if I am not busy , I'll come over. Falcon 1
I think I better look up who this Rube guy is, and soon. No telling what Gene is really saying here about me. :oQuote:
Originally Posted by SmithKid
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I worked with people that would say it looks like a "rube goldberg" deal, but I never knew if it ment good or otherwise...we will see....jh:D
Well, I just looked up "Rube Goldberg" too. I guess I should have egg on my face. :confused: My Dad used that expression a lot, and I always thought it meant just the opposite of what I find today. I was trying to say that Rogewr took something quite complicated and made it work very simply (however, not without a LOT of noodling and a few trial runs). But it seems great, and I think I just need to find the right spring combination to give me the feel I want (I think it's close already). Anyway, I was attempting to thank/compliment him! [thumb]
Sadly Gene and I ran into another hitch today on his. The Power Steering pump got all bolted up and I said the dreadful words "OK, now how do we run a belt to it?" He has no crank pulley with the right groove. I think he needs this crank pulley:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1964-FORD-MU...677#vi-content
Anybody got one floating around they don't need? At a good-ol'-guy Falcon friend discount? $150 on eBay! :bicker:
Thanks Roger. You came up with what looks like the proper piece faster than I did. I added it to my watch list for ebay, but sure don't want to have to pay that price. I'll repeat Roger's request from my own keyboard: HELP!
I looked and didn't have one, but before you pay $150.00 for that , for a nother $50.00 you can get the billet set from Summit for $195.95. Hopefully you'll find one, this is just a thought. Good Luck, Falcon1
Gene I have one off a 64 289 it's yours for $20. the good old falcon price..jh
Great John. [yay] I'll take it. I was at your home once 3 or 4 years ago, but surely don't remember how to get there anymore. If you'll PM me with a address to meet you, I'l come & get it.
Well, it was a valiant try, but the pulley that John has is the same as the one I already have. So, I'm still looking......:(
I dont know if this would help.... Im confused on the year
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/pts/2774909261.html
Gene I hope it helps...... theres a guy up in Arlington that is always trying to sell Ford steering stuff on Craigslist, but I dont see any ads right now. Theres a guy over on Madison that has some Falcons his name is Steve. I dont have his number maybe in the Falcon registry
If you havn't found one I might have one if you know what you're looking for. I have a couple of buckets full of pulleys ive had for for years. You're welcome to come over and look through them if you'd like. Give me a call. 425-481-1502 Dave
What Gene needs is exactly like the one on eBay in the link I posted above.
We're debating extensive machining at the moment to try and make something that works, maybe from something John had and supplied to Gene - or splitting a double-groove pulley and welding a part of one to another. One way or the other, we've get this bird to fly.
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Not sure if I have the right one or not. I just pulled all the power steering stuff off the 62. The set up came from a 64 mustang. Let me check it out tonight and get a pic, maybe I can still help.